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    If anything these people have proven they cannot make their own decisions. They are literally advocating against public health measures that have been shown effective.

    Anyone who wont wear a mask is just an asshole, plain and simple. Deal with it and get over your hurt feelings. Also, i’m sure you’re one of the many people here concerned about government surveillance and whatever, so why not wear a mask just to keep your ugly mug off of cameras? That alone should be a good enough reason for you.

    This has nothing to do with values, it’s a public health issue and people like you cant see beyond your own smug sense of self government to save yourself.

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      You cherry pick your doctors and scientists and I have a slew i can quote from. This is a waste of our time, and that is exactly why each person should have the responsiblitiy and the right to live how they want and to live with the results of their choices. Promiscuous sex spreads diseases - even to women who’ve only been with one man all of their life. Should we outlaw sex outside of marriage? We could go on and on about how we each affect each other.

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        Don’t I have the right to live without you getting me infected even if you could have taken measures against it? Your freedom argument is a dead end. This goes beyond personal freedom and you need to accept that.

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          it is a dead end, because only symptoms can infect others. If my immune system handles it, there are no symptoms. this is not the black plague or rabies. 99% live and over 80% never get sick/symptoms. I won’t accept lies and poor logic. if your mask works so well, you have no need for me to wear one - especially since I stand farther away and have no symptoms. If you think I am a leper, stay home. A drunk behind the wheel of a car is more dangerous, yet bars have parking lots full of cars and you have to drive to the store to buy booze, maybe it should only be delivered? you are a coward about the wrong thing, mister. You are scared because soeone else TOLD you to be scared. That is pathetic.

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            Earlier this week USA passed 900,000 people dead of covid-19 - how does that stack up to drunk drivers?

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              oh, yeah?
              all of those men who had HIV didn’t die of AIDS then. They died of pneumonia, same as all of those patients who had heart disease. Yeah, thats the ticket: they all died of a secondary disorder and not the first disorder at all.

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            if your mask works so well, you have no need for me to wear one – especially since I stand farther away and have no symptoms.

            This is a weird argument since it has been proven that if both people wear a mask, the possibility of transmission is reduced even further than if only one person wears a mask. You have more mucous membranes than your nose and mouth, so you’d have to wear a full face mask with an ABEK filter or something like that so you’re 100% safe. Source control (the potentially infectious person wearing a mask) is more effective than (just) target control.

            You don’t need to have any symptoms to be an infectious carrier of COVID-19.

            I won’t accept lies and poor logic. […] If you think I am a leper, stay home.

            I won’t accept lies and poor logic either. I just accept facts. You argue with feelings.

            Your freedom ends where my freedom begins. Why should I stay home when you can wear a mask in public? It’s not that hard. People who don’t wear masks without a proper reason are just weak and pathetic.

            you have to drive to the store to buy booze, maybe it should only be delivered?

            If you always drink the booze at the store, you are the problem. Most people can control themselves until they know they don’t have to drive anymore. Apart from the bad analogy which has nothing to do with wearing a mask.

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              None of that has been proven. I can point you to sources that say mask do nothing and you can point me to sources that say they cure aids and help you lose weight.

              Always lean on the side of freedom. Don’t accept fascist mandates

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                I just linked two sources, you linked none and I never said masks cure aids and help lose weight. You clearly try to invalidate my argument by suggesting my claims were just as ridiculous, which they aren’t. I’m not discussing with you, just pointing out what you did so people who read this don’t get a false impression of what’s been happening here.

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              I hope another virus comes through the planet and wipes out the whiners and weaklings. Your lack of logic is so much like a fundamentalist religious zealot: “Because the Bible says so, you heathen”.

              |Your freedom ends where my freedom begins. Thee must be 500 ways - including via taxes- that you infringe on my freedom day in and day out. Go back to your twinkies, lard add.

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                Classy.

                I put it to you that you are getting worked up and should give this thread a rest for a few days.