- cross-posted to:
- automotive@discuss.tchncs.de
- cross-posted to:
- automotive@discuss.tchncs.de
I am awaiting better organised trains and more rail lines.
Buying a car new is a waste of money anyway. The second you register it, The Invisible Hand of The Market™ swoops in and takes away a good portion of its value. Especially if it’s a new model, you’re also stuck with all the teething problems associated with any new and untested product.
If you don’t want to be ripped off buying a car, you should buy second hand. If you’re forced to buy an affordable car due to monetary constraints, you actually have no other choice than buying second hand. But even then, a car is only affordable if you can get a decent amount of remaining service life out of it by the time it has become cheap enough for you to buy. If you buy a 10 years old combustion engine car that’s in decent shape these days, you can reliably expect it to last for at least 8 to 10 more years if you give it a little bit of maintenance.
Truly affordable electric cars will come when (or if) the current models are 10+ years old and still have a useful battery life by then.
Europe has more affordable EVs than the US. We don’t even get the ID.3 or Fiat 500e over here.
More affordable, but not affordable enough for the average person that can’t spend several ten thousand on a car.
I need a new car and by new I mean not brand new, but one with a bigger trunk. I like EVs in general and in a perfect world I would definitely have bought one, but I am living in a city, I don’t need the car for driving every day, I need it only for the weekend gateways, to transport my family from A to B and I sure as hell don’t want to buy a new car, the cost just doesn’t justify its purpose.
Plus here electricity is really expensive and relying on public chargers sucks big time.
Just like, get a roof box? Stack stuff a spare seat if there is one? Or if your city happens to have car sharing, you could rent a car for those few days. I’m lucky enough to have GreenMobility here and a 2 day all-in pack would cost me 145€. They even have small electric vans for moving stuff.
Plus the US shut down the tax credit on almost all electric cars (a month before the PHEV I wanted came out. I’m not bitter or anything)
I personally am waiting for more public chargers around my town.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Dealers in Germany and Italy as well as research by four global data analysis firms say there is more behind the slower uptake than economic uncertainty, with the consumers unconvinced that EVs meet their safety, range and price needs.
And most new models in the pipeline targeting entry-level consumers will not hit the market before 2025 at the earliest – by which time they will be contending with an expanded Chinese line-up from BYD (002594.SZ) to Nio (9866.HK) in Europe.
“You want to do the right thing for the environment, but it feels like you’re setting yourself up for a very expensive investment that will make your life that bit more complicated,” Garcia, a 29-year-old corporate media director, said.
Critics have long warned that a lack of affordable EVs would eventually stall the steep sales growth boosted by early adopters and corporate fleets.
Ford and GM warned recently they were delaying the launch of cheaper EV models and pulling back on spending due to weaker demand and higher costs in the wake of new United Auto Worker contracts.
Philip Nothard, insight director at dealer services firm Cox Automotive, said low residual values also put buyers off as companies and many consumers choose new cars based on what they can sell them for a few years down the line.
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