The Joint Jury Court of Athens announced today its decision for the 23-year-old Pakistani, who, in the summer of 2022, had murdered his 17-year-old girlfriend Nicoleta in the Athens neighbourhood of Peristeri because, as he said, she cursed Muhammad, the founder of Islam, during an argument. With its decision, the court unanimously found the Pakistani…
    • NIB@lemmy.worldEnglish
      313·
      11 months ago

      We only have his side of the story. Personally i think he killed her and then tried to make his murder appear more noble by lying about her shitting on Muhammad and trying to convert him to christianism.

    • madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish
      201·
      11 months ago

      Pretty much any God ever, because they are all made up by assholes to begin with.

  • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.worldEnglish
    694·
    11 months ago

    There are so many messed up things with this guy.

    Judge: Why didn’t you inform Emergency Services to send an ambulance?

    Defendant: That was the biggest mistake.

    Really? Not calling them was? Your biggest mistake wasn’t strangling her?

    Also, they’d been dating for 1.5 years! She was just 15 years old and was dating a 21yo guy.

    In some countries, that would be statuary rape. In Greece, it’s 15. Things that make you go ‘hmmmm’.

    Lastly, she wanted him to convert to Christianity. Obviously their religions were already a problem for their relationship. If we take the testimony as factual (and I will), it seems like a pretty normal argument fed by high emotions and low maturity. Because hey, she’s basically still a kid. Yeah, it wasn’t a well handled argument, but he’s 23, had known her for (at least) 1.5 years and went for physical violence to deal with the situation.

    I don’t see a problem with the verdict. He’ll probably get parole in a decade or so, we’ll see if the family gets revenge on him then.

    • SchizoDenji@lemm.eeEnglish
      191·
      11 months ago

      > Muslim

      >dating a girl with huge age gap

      >Killed her for cursing Muhammad.

      Somehow not surprising. Especially when Aisha was also 6 years old.

    • Chaotic Entropy@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      11 months ago

      It doesn’t help that the article seems to be quite poorly translated/written. It references the man asking the victims family for an apology when the quote indicated he is trying to give one. Very confusing/incorrect phrasing throughout.

    • The Octonaut@mander.xyzEnglish
      113·
      11 months ago

      No, there is a middle ground between “he was not just human but also divine” and “he was not in any way special”. They consider him the most perfect human that has ever lived. They make no secret of this. They bless his name every time they use it. They have rules around his image and his reputation. And they make no secret of this. If you’ve interpreted “he’s not divine” as “he’s not special”, that’s your upbringing coming through, not theirs.

      And no I don’t need a list of all the abhorrent things Muhammed and his followers have done.

      • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        Don’t they have a rule against idolizing people? How do they not consider their treatment of Muhammad as idolizing him?

        • The Octonaut@mander.xyzEnglish
          31·
          11 months ago

          It’s a quite literal rule - idols and idolatry are things that have actual meaning in Abrahamic religions, and in the pagan religions that Islam supplanted at Mecca. See also the icons and iconoclastic conflict in the neighbouring Orthodox Christian tradition.

          “Wow he’s perfect” isn’t idolatry in the literal sense of an actual physical idol object mean to be physical manifestation of, or place of residence of, a deity.

          • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.caEnglish
            3·
            11 months ago

            Is that why they ban all pictures/depictions of Muhammad? To avoid stepping over that line of idolizing him?

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    22·
    11 months ago

    It does not present well if the prophet of God cannot take a curse without outrage.

    I believe there is a tale in the One-Thousand-and-One Nights about the Caliph and a boy who mocks him. The Caliph is distraught, and the tale addresses this very scenario, citing the Koran.

    I cannot speak to religious justifications for humility and suffering fools, but when gods and kings react disproportionately to provocation, their enemies surely watch and take note.

  • ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    181·
    11 months ago

    On my list of places to never go, prison for murdering an innocent young woman in a country where I’m a religious and ethnic minority is pretty much the top of the list

      • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.worldEnglish
        84·
        11 months ago

        They should feel persecuted because I’m persecuting them.

        Their fucked up beliefs have caused irreparable damage for millennia. They’ve attempted to purge other beliefs for millennia.

        Fuck them all I’m sick of it.

      • Zacryon@feddit.deEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Aye, if people really want to live in belief of some magical dreamworld, let them as long as they don’t force their beliefs on others and don’t hurt anyone (this includes psychological damage to their children for example).

        • richieadler@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          Ideally that would be doable. However, it’s almost impossible that they don’t damage someone with their bullshit.

    • herrvogel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      I’m sure that will be a smashing success and won’t cause any problems, like all the various attempts at banning alcohol.