• timgrant@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      “Where I heard that” is from the Christian Bible.

      Consider Philippians, Chapter 3, Verse 2.

      Philippians 3:2 in Other Translations

      2 Watch out for those dogs, those people who do evil, those mutilators who say you must be circumcised to be saved.

      Because not everyone knows this stuff: this is text from one of the Epistles (Latin for “letters”) which are attributed to Paul of Tarsus also known as Saint Paul the Apostle. Apostle means one of the chief disciples of Jesus Christ. The Epistles provide instruction to early Christians on how to organize their churches.

      @Archpawn@lemmy.world posts another relevant passage.

      What made you disagree?

        • timgrant@ttrpg.network
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          Provide some evidence for your claim, then.

          A major point of the quote I provided is that Christians are not bound by such strictures on dress, diet, mold remediation, etc., set forth in Leviticus, Deuteronomy, or elsewhere in Hebrew Scripture (which the early Christian church adapted with some changes to be the Old Testament).

          I myself have been to a lot of baptisms, and there’s never been a circumcision involved. It’s not on me to prove a negative though…where’s your evidence?

            • timgrant@ttrpg.network
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              The fact that many men, religious and otherwise, happen to be circumcised in a country where many Christians live does not make it part of the religion.

              Why would I believe your unsupported claims that are contrary to lots of evidence, my studies, and my own lived experience?

              I hope you learn one day that making generalizations about groups of people based on your own vague notions is neither good nor kind.

    • Archpawn@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      I heard it in Acts 15:5-11

      5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

      6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

            • Archpawn@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              7 months ago

              In South America and Europe, it’s less than 20%, which is as low as that map goes. The only really high Chistian area where it’s also common is Africa.

              It’s true that there’s overlap between places with Christianity and places where circumcision is encouraged, but you’re making it sound like it’s encouraged as part of Christianity, which it’s not. Or that Christian nations in general tend to be more in favor of circumcision, which they do not. Otherwise why would you end up with all those extremely Christian countries like Mexico having very little circumcision?