I am admittedly not a Panthers fan, but I have found the conversation around David Tepper interesting, namely because the NFL world has decided, seemingly overnight, that heās the stereotypical caricature of a meddling, arrogant owner that is torpedoing his teamās chances of winning. I donāt think that heās necessarily been THAT badāor that thereās even enough evidence to conclusively deem him the primary problem in Carolina yet. It seems like some of the discourse around his competence has been motivated by a desire to generate a cartoonish new Jimmy Haslam-esque owner to ridicule: people love skewering the owners (not unjustifiably so), and the asshole hedge fund guy whoās team sucks is an easy target.
I definitely think that thereās been cause for concern with Tepper: his management of his soccer team, replacing grass with turf that no one likes in an outdoor stadium (if you believe the NFLPA, it was rock solid when the Lions and Panthers played late last season), and his hiring decisions (you could say Rock Hill, but heās hardly the first owner to get in a real estate dispute with the local government). But while his hiring decisions are concerning, I donāt find his firing decisions concerning. Ron Rivera was past his sell by date when Tepper got there in the first place and the team was on the decline. Matt Rhule was a total disaster and honestly got longer than some owners wouldāve given him (he made it to a third season with a 10-23 record). Reich has been totally out of his depth, his offense has looked ARCHAIC, and their quarterback of the future is going backwards. Would you have retained any of these coaches? It doesnāt do anyone any favors to keep a lame duck coach just for the sake of optics. Yeah talking heads shit on you for it, but thatās probably because theyāre friends/acquainted with lots of these guys. Itās easy to say āFrank Reich shouldāve gotten another chance with Carolinaā without being able to actually justify it in any way other than heās a nice guy and itās bad practice to fire coaches in less than one year.
Not to mention, people have praised many of the same moves that have blown up In Tepperās face. Just look at the threads in this subreddit when they hired Reich, Thomas Brown, or drafted Bryce Young. From the Thomas Brown thread:
- āThis is an all star staffā
- āPanthers are killing this offseasonā
- āIāve loved all of the coaching moves the Panthers have madeā
- āThe difference between Rhuleās staff and Reichās staff is night and dayā
From the Bryce Young thread:
- āCarolina didnāt screw this one upā
- āHe will be generationalā
- āElectric whenever heās healthyā
- āVery obvious pickā
For better or worse, people largely seem to like Tepperās moves in real time. And even though itās become accepted as fact that Tepper overrode Reich on Bryce Young, more people wouldāve picked Young first overall than Stroud, and at least one reporter (Russini) has directly contradicted that and reported the organization was unanimous in favor of Young. How much evidence really is there that Tepper made Young a fait accompli to Reich?
TL;DR The Panthersā coaches have sucked and were justifiably fired. People have seemed to like Tepperās moves as theyāve happened and the criticism feels like Monday morning quarterbacking. Tepperās easy to hate and that could cloud assessments of his ownership. Maybe Panthers fans can provide some context that I missed?
Without ever having seen him or even hearing him speak, he seems like Clark Griswoldās boss on Christmas Vacation.
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An Objective Assessment of David Tepperās Ownership I am admittedly not a Panthers fan, but I have found the conversation around David Tepper interesting, namely because the NFL world has decided, seemingly overnight, that heās the stereotypical caricature of a meddling, arrogant owner that is torpedoing his teamās chances of winning. I donāt think that heās necessarily been THAT badāor that thereās even enough evidence to conclusively deem him the primary problem in Carolina yet. It seems like some of the discourse around his competence has been motivated by a desire to generate a cartoonish new Jimmy Haslam-esque owner to ridicule: people love skewering the owners (not unjustifiably so), and the asshole hedge fund guy whoās team sucks is an easy target. I definitely think that thereās been cause for concern with Tepper: his management of his soccer team, replacing grass with turf that no one likes in an outdoor stadium (if you believe the NFLPA, it was rock solid when the Lions and Panthers played late last season), and his hiring decisions (you could say Rock Hill, but heās hardly the first owner to get in a real estate dispute with the local government). But while his hiring decisions are concerning, I donāt find his firing decisions concerning. Ron Rivera was past his sell by date when Tepper got there in the first place and the team was on the decline. Matt Rhule was a total disaster and honestly got longer than some owners wouldāve given him (he made it to a third season with a 10-23 record). Reich has been totally out of his depth, his offense has looked ARCHAIC, and their quarterback of the future is going backwards. Would you have retained any of these coaches? It doesnāt do anyone any favors to keep a lame duck coach just for the sake of optics. Yeah talking heads shit on you for it, but thatās probably because theyāre friends/acquainted with lots of these guys. Itās easy to say āFrank Reich shouldāve gotten another chance with Carolinaā without being able to actually justify it in any way other than heās a nice guy and itās bad practice to fire coaches in less than one year. Not to mention, people have praised many of the same moves that have blown up In Tepperās face. Just look at the threads in this subreddit when they hired Reich, Thomas Brown, or drafted Bryce Young. From the Thomas Brown thread:
ā¢ ā āThis is an all star staffā ā¢ ā āPanthers are killing this offseasonā ā¢ ā āIāve loved all of the coaching moves the Panthers have madeā ā¢ ā āThe difference between Rhuleās staff and Reichās staff is night and dayā From the Bryce Young thread: ā¢ ā āCarolina didnāt screw this one upā āHe will be generationalā āElectric whenever heās healthyā āVery obvious pickā For better or worse, people largely seem to like Tepperās moves in real time. And even though itās become accepted as fact that Tepper overrode Reich on Bryce Young, more people wouldāve picked Young first overall than Stroud, and at least one reporter (Russini) has directly contradicted that and reported the organization was unanimous in favor of Young. How much evidence really is there that Tepper made Young a fait accompli to Reich? TL;DR The Panthersā coaches have sucked and were justifiably fired. People have seemed to like Tepperās moves as theyāve happened and the criticism feels like Monday morning quarterbacking. Tepperās easy to hate and that could cloud assessments of his ownership. Maybe Panthers fans can provide some context that I missed?
Seemingly overnight
Thatās where youāre wrong, he made it clear he wanted a total remodel in his image here from Day 1.
Not to mention, people have praised many of the same moves that have blown up In Tepperās face. Just look at the threads in this subreddit when they hired Reich, Thomas Brown, or drafted Bryce Young. From the Thomas Brown thread: - āThis is an all star staffā - āPanthers are killing this offseasonā - āIāve loved all of the coaching moves the Panthers have madeā - āThe difference between Rhuleās staff and Reichās staff is night and dayā
Thereās always a bunch of ārah rahā and optimism when coaches get hired.
Itās not my money, but I think itās foolish to give HCs that kind of money. Maybe coaches should be paid like players: a base amount and the rest in incentives. Also, this team was not a QB and HC away from success, but they threw away their near future for an unproven quantity and got a retread HC. At some point organizations are going to realize giving away draft capital to get a QB with nothing around him to help him win is stupid.
itās become accepted as fact that Tepper overrode Reich on Bryce Young
didnāt know this was a fact
He is right that a lot of people are acting like it is
If I was a Panthers fan, I would absolutely object to Tepperās ownership.
We pretty much do.