• thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Would you defend the rise of ISIS in the US for the same reasons, and if not, why not?

    I’d defend someone who’s being arrested for wearing an isis t-shirt

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      1 year ago

      Putting aside the effect of the t-shirt, has that happened (for ISIS or Nazis), or are you making things up to be afraid of?

      Both ISIS and Nazis are terror groups whose explicit goal it is to kill large numbers of people. Their very existence is tantamount to a death threat made against Jews, “sexual deviants”, “lesser races”, the west, socialists, and so on…

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        1 year ago

        has that happened (for ISIS or Nazis)

        Not in the US that I’m aware of. Nazi t-shirts are banned in Australia, and probably several other countries. I wouldnt say I’m afraid of it but I’m not making it up either.

        Both ISIS and Nazis are terror groups whose explicit goal it is to kill large numbers of people

        You’ll get no argument from me. But wearing a T-shirt or shouting a slogan is a far cry from killing someone. The freedom of speech in the US includes the freedom to hold and express shitty or simply unpopular opinions. It’s a necessary evil in order to prevent things like banning legitimate criticism of Israel.

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          It’s in Victoria, not Australia wide (and came in response to a huge amount of Nazi fuckery), but that’s beside the point. Even when a Nazi dipshit stood outside a courthouse in Melbourne, next to Tom Sewell, shouted “HEIL HITLER”, while doing a Nazi salute (after appearing in court for attacking 6 backpackers), then shouted “Australia for the white man, heil Hitler.”, there was zero consequences.

          The violence is the ideology. The very simple answer to “This is a slippery slope - where does it stop?” is when it becomes a problem. Protecting genocidal morons is a problem - stopping them is both a moral imperative and social good.