How do you feel about the massive influx of users?
I honestly can’t say about the influx. Since I’m part of it.
But man…
This does feel like home.
I was already loving Mastodon.
Honestly, the real question is:
What took us soo long…
I was lurking on Lemmy for a long time now read only mode, not signed up, but never had the urge to actually making an account.
I try not to have so many feeds where I’m active at once, to try and better manage the time I spend on this feeds.
Twitter and Reddit were the ones I engaged the most
Twitter became Mastodon and Reddit became Lemmy on that matter, so that I can focus on being active and helpful whenever possible.
So, what took me so long…?
Definitely something I will be asking myself for a while, since so far the experience here have something that reddit just don’t. The quality over quantity aspect.
Finally…
Thanks for having me here, I hope I can contribute the best I can to maintain Lemmy awesome as it is. I don’t post or reply like a madman, but I like to participate on constructive discussion every now and then.
For me definitely laziness.
Hey man, I’ve felt mostly the same than you migrating to lemmy. A while ago I tried mastodon but it really didn’t click with me, how do you do to find people to follow and so? I was only getting recommended the same like 10 guys. I like gaming and programming if it helps.
For Mastodon?
I use it the same as my Twitter, mainly googling mastodon lists of know profiles there, the I copy/paste in the search and follow them.
On Lemmy it’s easier, just do a search for the communities you’d like to join, for example:
Gaming at beehaw.org is amazing. Subscribe to that if you didn’t already.
Sometimes understanding how to cross instances can still be a bit cumbersome though.
There is pretty cool support for relative links though! As long as your instance knows of a community, they’ll work.
- [gaming@beehaw.org](/c/gaming@beehaw.org)
- gaming@beehaw.org
And if your instance doesn’t know a certain instance exists, you just have to paste the url into your search bar to get it working: https://beehaw.org/c/gaming
what took us so long
“Inertia is a property of matter” -Bill Nye the Science guy
What I mean by that is that it takes a force to move a large mass. People behave in much the same way. It takes a push to get people to move in large numbers from one place to another. I personally have been philosophically very pro-fediverse ever since I heard about it, but I was waiting for it to reach a critical mass before really switching over.
That, and for Lemmy specifically, its history of being a tankie forum. Without the Reddit refugee migration, if you joined Lemmy as a single user, you would be alone among communists and eventually get bullied into leaving. Already in 2020-2021, Fediverse users knew about Lemmy, but they avoided promoting it because of its userbase. This Reddit situation provided the push to get many normal users over to Lemmy at once to drown out the communist users.
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That’s a good point. Personally I like when there’s a diversity of political opinions that are able to have reasonable discourse. My favourite political subreddit for a while has been /r/stupidpol. It has lots of Marxists, but lots of internal variety in terms of viewpoints, and respectful debate has always been allowed there while also maintaining a lighter atmosphere.
A nice website for looking for servers, platforms, and user numbers over time is: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
Also handy for getting a picture of how many lemmy servers there are and how big they are.
I joined midwest.social and that site says it’s hosted in Germany. I find that funny that the USA Midwest is hosted overseas.
That’s a smart move!
Tried Lemmy a couple months ago and tbh it felt dead, love this new influx just hope new communities keep popping up
Same here !
Exciting times ahead :)
I would love for the federated model to become a gold standard for how successful platforms ought to be run.
Agreed, platforms should compete by providing better UX and features, not by abusing network effects and walling off themselves to hold communities and accounts hostage. In a way the fediverse provides a common carrier that is neutral to the users and platforms connected to it, which enables competition in the same way that guaranteeing equal access to physical internet infrastructure to new ISPs is essential to preventing ISP monopolies.
An idea so old is new again. The Internet and it’s early services (Usenet, email, IRC, etc.) we’re all designed from the start to be decentralized. After 20+ years of people consolidating into centrally-controlled mega platforms, I’m happy to see things coming full circle.
What’s with that blip of increased activity at around July 2022?
I forgot what happened exactly on July 2022 (US politics). Could they be Trumpers looking for a new home? Yes, it was repulsive to type that.
No trumpers ever made their way to lemmy that I know of, besides a small instance that closed a couple months back. That might be when GenZedong was quarantined and the tankies migrated to lemmygrad, not entirely sure.
I would guess some instance got federated and defederated again. But don’t take my word for it - just a guess.
Best guess… Maybe the last time Reddit pissed off their users?
I wouldn’t expect such a sharp dropp-off at the end of it again though, even if it was temporary black-out or something, I’d expect there to be more of a trail
I am excited by the prospect of new communities and not excited fo reddit groupthink
Yeah, the curse of success. Everyone seems to be hoping for the swift death of Reddit but I dunno. It getting shittier but still existing might be the best outcome.
It’s not going anywhere. I’m sure like 90% of people there don’t care at all what is happening. Probably more than 90, considering that about 5% used third party apps.
If I can’t use a 3rd party app, I’m done. Their own UX is terrible.
Hell yeah brother
I think honestly Lemmy just needs more mobile clients. Jerboa is ok, but third party clients are needed here like they are/were with reddit
Give it a few months. More apps will show up.
I wonder how hard it would be to convert some of the existing apps to use Lemmy. I guess the federated aspect makes it more complex and will require more development than just switching the API, but the UI could stay similar.
It’d be nice if Sync, RiF and others supported Lemmy.
I’d pay good money for “Relay for Lemmy”, assuming that the momentum sticks.
Relay for Reddit turns into Leray for Lemmy…
Lmao, I’m just being nuts.
RiF is Fun
->Lemmy is Fun
seems like an easy transition
As (another) reddit refugee, in order to compete with reddit, Lemmy needs to invest in its mobile apps, and make other servers easier to access.
Agreed. Website needs some improvement as well
Well unlike reddit the official app is great for lemmy.
There’s an official app?
[closest thing to] the official app
I use jeroba but it’s android. There’s also lemmur but it won’t load for me on that and jeroba is the"official"one.
I tried lemmur on fdroid but I think it’s dead. Hasn’t received updates in months and will not load anything.
I only know of Jerboa (for Android), but I don’t think that’s an “official” app
It kinda is. It’s made by one of the devs
One of the devs of the protocol? (forgot what its name was)
There’s a git repo for something called remmel(?) which I think is an iPhone client. But without someone publishing it to the App Store, no one will use it.
You mean the Android app? Unfortunately I can’t even login with Mlem on iOS.
I had that problem too. Turns out my password was too long. I had to reset it to something shorter and then it was fine.
mlem is under heavy development. Chances are the issue you encountered has been fixed in an update
As a newbie, I hope the software can catch up to the needs quickly.
I’m not new to Lemmy, I’ve hung around here on and off a couple times. My biggest complaint about it for a long time was that many of the subs I was interested in were just dead or didnt exist on lemmy. With the new influx of users, I imagine that’s going to change, even if it does take a couple more years.
The future of Lemmy is looking very promising :)
what communities do you suggest and where do you want new people?
12 years Reddit refugee here:
So far the concept is VERY promising but it still does all feel a bit wonky. Signing up was a headache and took me hours, sign in still sometimes work sometimes not… A huge of development will be required to get lemmy where it needs to be to really compete with Reddit, but so far, I’m very hopeful and happy!
I felt the same at first too. The longer sign-up issue makes joining a pain, but I think it’s worth it.
Part of what I’m coming to love about the lemmy side of things is how free of filler and bots it is. By making a tiny barrier to entry, that’s going to prevent that kind of thing to a degree.
I just moved to a different instance and logged in there, browsing ml subs.
It’s a bit wonky but so was reddit. I expect it to improve quickly with it’s sudden interest.
At least for me downloading their app jeroba makes the experience much nicer. Haven’t had the issues I had on the website though it’s a bit taxed because of the influx of users. Expected.
Is Jerboa android only? Didn’t see in the app store
Yeah, android only. For iOS, there’s Mlem.
Afaik Mlem is iphone’s lemmy client
Yes, there’s an apple one but not sure if it’s official. Mlem or something.
Think of it like moving to a new house rather than picking up your house and moving it to a new neighborhood. The excitement comes from the differences even if you miss the other place.
Right? I can’t wait to see how it improves as time on. I didn’t have any real problems with joining on my end, though. When you signed up, was it the approval process on your instance, or just confusing? If it was the approval process, that’s probably specific to lemmy.ca.
I first tried signing up on lemmy.ml, that was impossible. Various hours of trying just got me the “click the signup button and it starts rotating and… nothing”
Then I went to lemmy.ca, there signup worked, but sign in at times gives the same “button rotating” thing and then nothing. Try again, and it works.
Its a minor issue, but a very visible one that I would say should be fixed ASAP because its the first thing new people see and you don’t want the first experience to be tiresome.
It’s because there is some approval process involved I think to avoid bot/troll accounts. I join lemmy.ca cause I live in Canada. :D
That’s fine that they have an approval process, but then the user interaction should be different. IT should immediately say that my request is under review and they’ll get back to me asap or something, instead of a “this process is frozen” indication
The infinitely rotating button happens if their email settings are invalid- just discovered that on my instance. I have mine set to open but require email validation and everything seems to happen instantly, but if they require admin verification it may be bugging out and not telling you.
May I ask why signing up took hours? I didn’t even need to confirm anything via email, so I took me like 10 seconds.
I used sh.itjust.works though, I think it’s meant to, well, just work. Maybe the process on other instances is more complicated?
I signed up via beehaw and the sign up page said the request has to be manually approved.
It is also very hard to subscribe to other server’s community (or subreddit equivalent).
E.g.: i had account from beehaw, if i want to subscribe a channel from lemmy.world i need to see the list of community from lemmy.world comminity list, but I cannot subscribe from there because i dont have lemmy.worlda account. So i need to back to beehaw and search it again in community search bar.
In jerboa android, I didnt even see a way to search new community
Would be nice if there is a way to subscribe other server easily
In Jerboa, there is an icon on the bottom that takes you to the search function. I’ve been able to “join” communities from other instances using it
I went through https://browse.feddit.de and subscribed to a bunch of communities that matched what I had on Reddit.
Yeah, just found that out the hard way myself. I got to lemmy.world and suddenly was no longer logged in etc… That is something that def needs improvement.
Agreed. There’s a similar issue on Mastodon that’s been confusing people for years and still hasn’t been addressed, let’s hope Lemmy prioritizes it a bit more!
Given the timeouts and load issues I’ve had on lemmy.ml today… Mildly concerned.
I’m part of the problem though, and really hopeful it goes well! Seems like the solution to the Giant Network problem we see at Reddit, Twitter, FB, etc
Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works can help support the load.
Ya love to see it.