• LufyCZ@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          But they could still sell it for money if they wanted to, that was my point.

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              11 months ago

              I could see them blocking it too maintain an exclusivity deal

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              11 months ago

              Stole. The NSA steals data from companies like Google. That’s why, for example, everything in data centers and everything sent between them is encrypted.

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          Do they sell data or sell services using data they collect? Honest question.

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          11 months ago

          Where do I go to buy a list of your location history off Google if it’s not true?

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            Ok I just went down a very deep internet rabbit hole and went from believing google definitely sells data to it doesn’t sell data to it sells data (kinda). I’d recommend this article on RTB’s which explains how google advertisements actually work and how they leak your data (including your location).

            I’d also recommend watching the short video by Brave linked in the article - I didn’t understand the first part but the actual article explains it quite well, the end is the juicy part.

            Hope this helps!

        • PixxlMan@lemmy.world
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          If anything they’d be buying since they’re the ones presenting ads… The whole data selling discussion online is always ridiculous. Who are these mystical data buyers ready to shell out billions for crappy “data” (does anyone participating in these discussions actually have a definition of what they think this ridiculously non specific ““data”” even is?) to present slightly better ads to users? Why would Google sell this data, shouldn’t they want to keep it to themselves?

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            11 months ago

            selling your data refers to people buying ads and being like I want to show my dog food ad to 100,000 people who have a dog, and then Google only shows the ad to people who have a dog

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              11 months ago

              That’s not what selling is. At all. Selling implies that any random person with money has access to data about you.

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            I know of a SaaS company that charges for their products to end users for a monthly fee. They make significantly more money selling the data of their users to 3rd parties than they do from subscriptions. Also, they figured this out after the fact, it wasn’t a core business component when they launched, but they still ended up raising the monthly fees due to “inflation”.

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      Yeah if you attend a protest, go to church or vote leave your phone at home.

      Damn the world is getting crazy

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              11 months ago

              Look up “Kingsman church scene” or watch the movie. The scene is one of the best action scenes. Won’t necessarily spoil the movie but will give up some info.

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          The government will know you went to church. That’s pretty scary if you ask me. Church should be a safe place and having the government track you literally anywhere is concerning. Not to mention it opens up the door for people to be watched even more because they attended a church, mosque or something else.

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            11 months ago

            Technically speaking, anywhere that your face/body/gait can be seen/analysed, is where you will be tracked. At this point, the most prudent thing to do is to completely divorce your online identity from your physical self.

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      For sure. It won’t be just Google authorities will be asking for your location data.

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    I feel like the vast majority of headlines about this stuff could use clarification of “without warrant.”

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      Because that data tells them a lot less and requires a paper trail, which they don’t like.

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        Yes and no

        The Telco can say between what antennas you are. In urban areas with lots of antennas that’s still pretty accurate to almost say what building. Especially with 5G the number of antennas and accuracy go upto in some cases centimeter/inch accuracy so better than GPS. That last case would be in a mall with small antenna in each corridor.

        In rural areas with data switched off that’s more like somewhere in that square mile, way worse than GPS.

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    They can still access it locally, if Google wanted to protect people then they wouldn’t store location data

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      You’ll still have the option of syncing it to Google’s servers, but it will be encrypted there so only you can view the contents, not Google

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    Oh well, guess I’m still happy about this magic bag i got for going places I don’t want Google knowing about.