• Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I do not like that atheism is being tied with satanism in this weird religious display being violently attacked by other religious terrorists. I don’t agree with the satanists tactics, and I don’t want to be associated with them in any way. Atheists don’t support religions. Even fake ones. Especially ones that are the mortal enemies of the local religious terrorists.

    Couldn’t they do this crap with their stupid noodle god bullshit? At least that nonsense hasn’t been the main enemy of christianity/abrahamic religions for thousands of years.

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      Who the fuck are you to speak for me and who I support?

      Speak for yourself, by yourself, dogmatic atheist.

      You’re free to not like it, and free to voice your opinion but you do not speak for atheists. Go ahead and keep your fears about granting any religion legitimacy through any twisty means, but don’t be dogmatic about it and start telling other people what they do and do not support. You will be wrong every time, and deserving of every ridicule you get.

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      What don’t you agree with? Be specific.

      The Supreme Court, quite bigotedly, determined that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (PBUHNA) is not a “real” religion, and therefore adherents do not enjoy the same rights as people who follow one of the preferred religions.

      Satanism, on the other hand, is a nontheistic religion that has long been recognized, even if it is begrudgingly, as a preferred religion in the United States. That’s why you don’t see this “crap,” aka fighting for your individual liberties and equal protection under the law, from the FSM anymore.

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      Atheists don’t support religions.

      Why not?

      Even fake ones.

      What makes you think that it’s fake? I’m a Satanist, and the religion is very real for me. It has had a positive influence on my life.

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        11 months ago

        Actually I think getting a fall (from power) of the Christians is the main point. I don’t want my country to become a Christian state, no matter how many beautiful Christian people I know.

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      Satanism is essentially politically active atheism, though yes it IS a religion as well. Atheism describes what I am not, a believer in god. Satanism describes what I am, pro-secularism, pro-equality, pro-justice, pro-bodily autonomy, pro-acceptance, pro-science, pro-rationality, pro-kindness. How could a fellow atheist possible disagree with the point Satanists are making here? You put your religious crap in a government building, then you MUST treat all religions equally and put in a Satanic display as well. You make christian after school clubs, we make after school Satan clubs. You strip people of their bodily autonomy based on your book, we fight for it back with our Tenets.

      Atheists don’t support religions

      Says who? The King of Atheists? There is no authority figure, you can’t generalize. Atheists tend to not support religion when it encourages and normalizes violence, hate, and infringes upon the freedoms and rights of others. Satanism does NOT do that, it fights for our rights BACK. It holds a mirror to these evangelical conservatives. No Atheist is going to hate on a religion built on values based on kindness, acceptance, justice, and rationality. That’s a job for Christians. Respectfully, take the stick out of your ass and open your mind a bit. Take time to learn before you speak. If you, as an Atheist, truly do not or rather refuse not to see the point in this, then you’re already lost.

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      I suggest you do some reading about that major local religion.

      Satan has been their ‘arch nemesis’ for hardly any time at all, it’s a very recent addition.

      Lucifer, as a fallen angel, historically is a pitiable creature, not some BBEG.

      the church of satan is the only organization I know of that is pushing back against the theocracy in the US, and I think they’re doing it brilliantly.

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        I’m an ordained minister in the Church of the FSM. Ordained another guy to marry us last month. Talk about feeling personally attacked. :)

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      Atheists don’t support religions.

      Atheists actively do not believe in God or gods. The Satanic Temple is non-theistic. There are plenty of atheists out there that support non-theist religions.

      Your displeasure that atheism being related to “Satan” is you taking a theistic viewpoint by seeing it as the Abrahamic religions do.

      The word “Satan” was not originally a proper name, but rather an ordinary noun that means “adversary”. In this context, it appears at several points in the Old Testament.

      If you actually read and knew the tenet of TST then you’d know that they are the adversary of Christian extremism.