If the performance weakness continues for a week or two, the agency would start recommending decreasing spend with Reddit or directing it to other platforms.
After the blackout, we will be closely monitoring user behavior on Reddit and guide clients when we can unpause,” said Freddy Dabaghi, managing director at Stagwell-backed Crispin Porter Bogusky, which has asked clients to stop campaigns, depending on their client goals.
I just moved to Lemmy after staying on Reddit for almost 8 years! Hopefully more people will migrate too :)
Social media should never be centralized and for-profit
Moved today. A big part of what I enjoy on reddit is reading comments and with how active communities are over here, I just might be here to stay!
me too. also really nice to just read normal commentsand not just upvote farming comments.
It’s hard to stay dark when the admins can put admin-friendly mods in charge of subs.
They can try but without the moderation tools at the core of the issue, the subs will be inundated with bot spam till it dies. There will never be enough admins with free time to replace all the unpaid moderators let alone their knowledge. Not to mention doing a hostile takeover of subs without any understanding of each community’s values will serve only to piss off more people.
Besides cashing out a dying platform, there is no winning for Reddit if they keep this up.
That’s fine let reddit shittify itself further. Whoever they replaced them with is gonna do reddit bidding that is unless they turn on reddit, regardless its not going to return reddit to its former self.
The next problem are the users that refuse to move away from Reddit. I’ve seen comments on subreddits that re-opened that say its not a big deal to them because they use the app. I guess people love getting fucked in the ass by these corporations
They are going to use AI surely?
Hey! I’m keeping this as it’s sharing knowledge with new users from Reddit. However, in future please find another community to post this on, because it is not related to the lemmy.world instance specifically.
I would love to be a fly on the wall come July. If the advertisers start to pull their spots, the earth may rumble just a tad
Nice, I won’t go back to reddit after Apollo shut down
I am/was? A moderator of r/NintendoDE, still backed out, until they take us over or comply with the demands.
Probably we’ll be taken over at some point, but I feel like Reddit has lost its place for me, and a large part of the trust that I out there too.
The thing that should scare advertisers the most isn’t just the slight dip in revenue, but that those users are moving to ad-free sites. Those impressions are unrecoverable by redistributing spend away from Reddit.
that those users are moving to ad-free sites
When I check my ublock origin for this site, it says 0 blocked trackers and ads out of 0%. That’s so refreshing. I don’t think I’ve seen a website like that in decades.
Holy shit this is true, 0 trackers on lemmy. I have’nt had a tracker alert yet on lemmy so far, this is amazing
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I mean. We’re all here. No idea how many people will actually stay, but I hope It’s enough. I like the change
I wouldn’t say we’re all here. The statistics really don’t show that unfortunately
I definetly didn’t write clearly, sry :p
I meant that everyone on this thread is already on board. I just hope people actually stay in Lemmy
Any amount will push lemmy closer to mainstream, so it’s always a good thing. The world won’t stop going into an anti-privacy and anti-freedom direction over night, so we might be looking at some exponential growth after the wave of new users.
I can only talk for myself. Since yesterday I lurk on Reddit but don’t really engage with it anymore other than that.
As soon as Apollo is gone, even that will go away. I don’t know if I will stay on Lemmy, only time will tell even tho I hope so. But my active days on Reddit are ending right now.
I cancelled my Reddit premium today. I was hesitant because I was in the $30/yr and didn’t want to get rid of that pricing since it’s $50 now. But I’m liking the fediverse and the quirks that comes with it. Will cancelling make an impact? Probably not. But I’d rather not support them if they’re not going to give me a choice on which app I use.
Earnest question, what did the $30/year get you? I never gave them a penny out of my own pocket, didn’t know why I would.
It gave you 700 tokens a month. So you could give out awards to posts. It also removed ads. But I used Apollo and old.reddit(don’t know if ads are placed here) so it didn’t exactly benefit me much.
I also cancelled my Reddit premium. I was using Apollo so the no ad thing was not a factor and I never used my tokens. But I used reddit a lot over many years and wanted to contribute. Currently I am avoiding reddit and trying out Lemmy. Will decide before Jun 30 whether to delete posts/comments/account. I have also resrrected an RSS app which I had not been using for quite a while.
I never had premium. But I deleted my 8-year account today. I took a screenshot as I was using power delete suite. I was tempted to make a throwaway account and post it to some of their subreddits that are still trending and see if I could start some kind of stupid little movement. Maybe they think a little bit longer if they start seeing people delete long-term accounts. And I’m sure there are lots of accounts out there that are much longer term and much higher Karma than me. Actually sacrificing some of those accounts could actually make a difference.
Canceled my premium as well. I’m enjoying Lemmy so far and have no plans to go back to Reddit
Around 14 years ago or so, I actually turned off my Adblocker for reddit, because I respected the platform and how it was run. I’ve never turned off Adblocker for ANY other site before or since. Reddit can get fucked. I’m not going back period.
I think that’s admirable. Personally I’d rather just pay $1 per month or something and not see ads at all and have app access.
The point is that it is not one dollar, actual server costs may still grow, so subscrptions for social media are still not enough to support the infrastructure behind. Look at twitter, the subscription is there (they call it $8chan now lol) but it still costs a lot of money. The question is whether giant social media sties can be as profitable as other non-tech companies, and it’s a valid question.
Sites need to understand that. No one wants to pay 10$/month for some premium crap, all we want is to replace ad revenue.
But sadly most of them charge ridiculous amounts, so it’s infeasible to support many of them. People end up choosing the big ones because they provide the most value per money, so we get more monopolization.
I did the same at some point. However, that place is long gone. There is no reason to be stuck there.
Ah fuck yeah let’s go
This is really nice, if the protests start to hurt their bottom line, they are going to be much more inclined to listen. I didn’t expect these blackouts to do something.
Or even better, fire the MBAs who came up with the stupid idea in the first place
I don’t think the idea is stupid, just poorly executed. From Reddir’s POV, this makes sense (why wouldn’t it?). They could have done this in a much better way.
3rd-party devs recognized that paying for API access is reasonable, but they rightfully objected to the pricing.
The Internet is moving towards a subscription-based model, mimicking the one it opposed at the beginning. Or to put it more succinctly: app subscription are the new bills.
Guess I should have worded better. I actually like subscription-based membership if it means we remove advertisements and data collection/sales. I personally think spez is lying about reddit not being profitable. They are probably raking it in via ad sales and selling harvested data.
I think the internet at its best is when it’s ad-free, not harvesting and selling user data, and free to use.
Wikipedia is one of the most successful projects on the internet, and it works exactly like that.
Hypothetically, I wouldn’t be opposed to some kind of compensation model. But experience shows that as soon as you introduce a for-profit model, people in charge will eventually ask the question “hey, if this is making money, couldn’t we squeeze much more money out of it!?!?”
Even if it was true, the decision to host all images and videos themselves must have helped with that lol.
Yea, and they really implemented that poorly, too. Reddit video has to be the worst video playback (when it does play back) on the internet since 1996…
Don’t forget that in the end of the month and July 1st the third party apps will disappear on reddit. That means more redditors will to like lemmy or squablles etc.
old reddit com also will stop working somewhere around this date, and this will put more people away
And reddit in mobile browsers
Do you have a source on this? 5 days ago the message was “P.S. old.reddit.com isn’t going anywhere”.
A few months ago, the message was also “Reddit is not going to start charging for API access.”
I’m not saying old.reddit.com is going away in the very near future, but I also wouldn’t put too much trust into whatever spez says on any given day.
I don’t disagree, but there’s a big difference between “it might stop working sometime in the future, there’s no way to know for sure” and “it will stop working somewhere around the date the API changes are made”.
The first is a good guess, the second is just flat out wrong. Look, I don’t like the reddit admins any more than the next guy, but there’s no need to resort to straight up lying.
Yeah, this is what I’m most interested to see. Right now it’s a forward thinking, principled thing.
Once Relay, RiF, Apollo, BaconReader, and all the others go defunct, a lot more people are going to take notice. If they use the awful official app, they’re going to realize Reddit has changed dramatically and not for the better, and they’ve just been shielded from the worst if it with their 3rd party apps.
long live lemmy 💙
On Monday, Reddit’s ad manager encountered a brief outage, during which buyers were unable to look at reporting statistics, even while impressions were still delivering, though the impact was fairly minimal, per four sources. (The Verge reported the moderator blackout crashed the site, although it’s unclear whether the crashes are related).
So the site was down for quite a bit of time but the ad related stuff was just a minor hiccup?
