I am exploring Lemmy right now and what I see is very worrying to me, but I also don’t understand wth is going on with some instances here. I don’t know if it’s smart to post this, but here we go.

I am partial to Marxist and anarchist ideology, but lemmygrad looks completely unhinged to me. Is it a parody? Some content is fine and some of it is insane.

On the other hand, beehaw looked super inviting from the outside and I even applied to join them. Then, I looked closer and that instance’s moderation looks totalitarian and rigid in the other way. (I understand why they blocked lemmygrad though…)

I’m seeing this impact other communities in different ways and there’s some kind of witch hunt happening on both sides…

I want to interact with people that can respect each-other and that can hold open-minded discussions about any topics without devolving into some tribal war.

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    Yes, what is anyone going to do to stop you? That’s why America has free speech at the very first right defined in the bill of rights.

    The fediverse allows anyone to set up their own instances with their own rules and beliefs. It’s simply the consequence of freedom of speech.

    Those people and ideas you want to ban will always be there. If you make it so people have to hide them, it just makes it easier for the ideas to spread. It’s better if they are openly criticized and refuted rather than swept under the rug.

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      Then explain why i cant scream FIRE in a movie theater, or call a mall and tell them I’m going to bomb them, or walk up to someone on the street and say “give me all your money or i’ll blow your brains out”. After all its all just speech isn’t it?

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        You can, you’ll just face legal consequences for disturbing the peace or threatening others.

        Notice how you get in trouble after you say something. The idea that a government can stop you from saying or thinking something is silly. How would you even enforce such a thing?

        That’s why the rights in the American’s constitution are considered “inalienable”, because even if there were (illegal) laws made to stop you from saying or thinking something, your right to do so is innate and can never truly be taken from you.

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          “Yes, what is anyone going to do to stop you? That’s why America has free speech at the very first right defined in the bill of rights”

          “You can, you’ll just face legal consequences”

          Am I taking crazy pills?

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            You missed the part of my comment where I pointed out you must have done something to be charged with a crime. The Government did not stop you, they are punishing you for something you did.

            Your right to say and do whatever you want is immutable and cannot be taken away from you. As long as you have a mind, you have the ability to think and do what you want.

            All that anyone can do to stop you is to threaten you with punishment of some kind, hoping it’ll deter you from doing that thing in the first place.

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              Are you high? Do you think governments are run by witches who can hex people? Of course the government can’t stop you from physically saying something!

              The same way they can’t stop you from building a bomb, cooking meth, stabbing someone in an alley, or anything else that’s illegal.

              The way laws work is to prevent people from doing things by making them illegal, what are you talking about?