EDIT: Let’s cool it with the downvotes, dudes. We’re not out to cut funding to your black hole detection chamber or revoke the degrees of chiropractors just because a couple of us don’t believe in it, okay? Chill out, participate with the prompt and continue with having a nice day. I’m sure almost everybody has something to add.

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      This is like the second or third post I have seen in the past week talking about “belief” in science. Science isn’t about belief, it’s about understanding. Maybe this post should be, “What facts are you questioning because you don’t understand the underlying data?”

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        Seriously. Science just is. I don’t care if you believe it or not. It still is what it is.

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          What it is, is an extremely powerful tool for reducing uncertainty about the world. Not eliminate, reduce. What it is not is a tool for “proving” “facts”. Claiming a “proven fact” is belief, not empirical science. An extremely consistent and useful theory, of course! But not a proven fact.

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              Do you not know what a metaphysic is? A metaphysic is something that affects the world without actually existing. Information is metaphysics. Law is metaphysics. Gender is definitely metaphysics. Science is too.

              Y’all downvoting me because you’re taking offense to a word you can’t bother looking up the definition of. Peak stupidity and tribalism right here. You make up your identity(which is also a metaphysic) based on imagery and social appeal and sling shit just like chimps.

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                Could it be that people are downvoting you because you’re using words wrong while acting like you are educated on the matter? 😉

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                  You don’t have to take my word for it. Try Google define: metaphysics.

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        That might have been a better title but it would get less responses and also the title never mentions “belief in science” as you put it, the explicit title is something Scientific that you DON’T believe in.

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          A lot of people not wanting to disassociate the term believe from relgion here. I believe the sun will rise tomorrow. I also believe the sun doesn’t rise. Neither have to do with a religious belief system for me.

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        Science should be questioned by people who understand the science, not by random people who don’t understand the research. Which a lot of people who know nothing about the science or the maths/data or whatever try to question it

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          Right, all the people talking shit about dark matter in this thread surely all have 4 PhDs up their ass

          No investigation, no right to speak

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          This is a really stupid take, how do you think new scientists are made if not reaching for enlightenment to answer their own questions?

          Science is about being wrong and learning.

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            Yes, and people that challenge the science who then become scientists actually research/experiment thenselves. They don’t go and claim science is false until they have actual reason/evidence to believe so. One can question science all they want when they do their own science on the matter and it isn’t handily disproved beyond reasonable doubt by existing evidence.

            Most science deniers do not do that. Making anti-science claims without obtaining solid, consistent evidence is not science.

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          People are free to express what they think about science. There’s no law saying otherwise. Why are you guys so upset?

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            “There’s no law against it” is a laughably stupid reason to do something. They’re free to do it but everyone else is free to acknowledge that their uneducated/misinformed skepticism is harmful to society and that their opinions are meaningless to those who aren’t dumb. Leave the contemporary science denial to those who actually somewhat know what they’re talking about.

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      The top comment is a proper debate about leading scientific theories, and the most downvoted comment is somebody who thinks the moon landing is faked, both of which have healthy and honest debate with goodwill from both sides.

      This entire post is about Skepticism, which is an integral part of Science. To shut down the conversation would be Anti-Science.