One of the things I don’t really want to self host is a mail server, especially for outbound mail. Currently I’m using a Gmail account, but I want to change that.

What do you all use for things like notifications sent through smtp?

I’m leaning towards AWS SES since it’s cheap, but I know there are some other options like mailgun and sendgrid.

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      This is the first I’ve heard of purelymail. It looks really cheap. How do you like it so far? I’m using fastmail currently for most of my domains, but have been considering moving my incoming e-mail too.

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        Love it. Heard about it from HN some years ago and been using it since. The guy who runs it is super friendly and aswers mails quickly too. And yes, it’s super cheap, I’m using the “usage based” pricing or whatever it’s called.

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    Sendgrid has a free plan, I know, but I believe you’re limited on the number of emails you can send per day.

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    I’m using mailgun and have had zero issues with it. Hard to beat since it’s free.

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      I might be missing something, but isn’t mailgun only free for the first month? It looked like their cheapest plan is $35/mo after the 30day trial.

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        You know I think you’re right. I might be grandfathered into an old plan. I’ve been using mailgun for over 3 years

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      Thanks for mentioning SMTP2Go. It’s another I haven’t looked at yet, but looks like 1,000 e-mails/mo in the free plan isn’t bad.

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        Of course. The only thing I don’t like about it is the free plan only allows 5 domains.

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    I also thought about using AWE SES, but I decided not to use it, since I was “sandboxed”(See more here).

    I decided to use MXRoute, which have worked great for me so far. It is more expensive(50$ per year), than purelymail and Migadu, but for me reliabillity is very important, so I don’t mind paying a bit extra for it.

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      $50/yr isn’t too terrible if it’s good. Do you use it only for outgoing notification type e-mails or do you use it as your main email too?

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    MXroute. First, because Jar is stupid (hope someone will get the reference). Second, because they are awesome and cheap at the same time. You can go from full-fledged hosting with them to using them as relay, and for pizza money for a year.

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      Are you using mxroute only for outbound (notifications/etc) mail, or are you using it for all of your incoming e-mail too?

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        In some cases outbound only, in other cases inbound, too, with redirect somewhere else. I’m not using them to store emails right now.

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    Had issues at scale with Mailgun, moved to Sendinblue (now Brevo) and all sorted. Mailgun’s support might as well be non-existent, took them nearly two weeks to address my issue, at which point I’d already jumped ship.

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    I’m using Mailgun, but there are other providers offering similar services as well. Main reason is because it’s free for the volume I send :)

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    I set up a smtp relay with gsuite for outgoing mail but don’t think it is ideal; it is tied to my user. It was just expedient rather than preferred.

    Totally looking forward to the answers here.

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      That’s pretty much my concern as well. Most of my notifications (lemmy/etc) get sent from a gsuite account or a fastmail account. I don’t really want any automated e-mails being tied to my personal accounts like that.

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    If you want free options, I often use MailEnable and hMailServer in lab environments. Also a free Azure developer trial includes some M365 licenses, and it pretty much always auto-renews every 90 days (I’ve had a few tenants going for YEARS now)

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      Oh man, I have enough bad memories from MailEnable :D

      That’s a good tip about the 365 license though, I didn’t know it could renew for free. I might try it just to learn more about azure.

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    I actually setup SES for my Lemmy instance. I was evaluating SendGrid but less than 24 hours after signing up they closed my account with zero explanation so…yeah lol.

    I was sandboxed in SES initially but I created a support ticket asking for production access and I was good to go. No issues with SES thus far.

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    SendGrid hasn’t failed me yet. I can’t speak on pricing though, I basically only use it for password resets on some self hosted services so the free tier is all I need.