• Blue@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Hunger in capitalism is not about famines, it’s about mass produced cheap food full of sodium, sugar and chemicals, yes people are feed but at the cost of obesity and other health problems, it’s about farmers pushed to plant specific crops to the detriment of the environment and the land, pushed to buy seeds from Monsanto and punished if they dare to plant their own crops.

    People still are going hungry in the world, but not we’re you can see it, and you will never see it, in your bubble of lights and advertisment.

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      11 months ago

      It’s also about famines tho…

      The Irish Famine was 100% caused by capitalism. The Bengal Famine is the same. All famines today in the capitalist world are the fault of capitalist logic. When people die of hunger in Ethiopia or Eritrea, it’s capitalism killing them.

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        11 months ago

        The Irish Famine was 100% caused by capitalism.

        This is a lie.

        The Irish Famine was caused by the British government using thugs with guns to steal food from Irish farmers. It had absolutely nothing in it to resemble a free market situation. The Irish Famine was caused when the government stepped in to disrupt the action of the free market.

        Capitalism is defined by free markets. When the government comes in and confiscates all the food to export overseas, that is the opposite of a free market,

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          11 months ago

          What are you talking about? The Irish famine was caused by two factors:

          1. The potato blight, and potato mono-culture. Potato mono-culture being caused by capitalism, by industrialisation, privatisation of Irish land at the hands of British landlords, and profit maximisation in a laissez faire market.
          2. During the famine, it was more profitable for the British landlords to export agricultural produce to England and other parts of Europe than to sell it in Ireland. So laws of the market dictated pretty much everything was exported.

          The famine was literally caused by the government NOT stepping in, doubling down on laissez faire liberalism and using racist Malthusian excuses like “helping the Irish would just make things worse cause they would procreate like rabbits and need even MORE food”…

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          Oh, I get it now… You just read your first Ayn Rand book lol

          You’re gonna vmbe amazed at what a brick wall the imaginary “free market” solutions are gonna run into.

          You have all the free market capitalism you can stand right now and the problems got WORSE, not better. Corrporations literally control the US government and have created food deserts and starvation and utterly empty calories. #FAIL. Capitalism cause famines.

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      11 months ago

      Hunger in capitalism is not about famines

      I think this pretty much sums up capitalisms’s relationship to food. Hunger in capitalism is a word we use to describe people being driven, because hunger in capitalism is not about famines.

      I’m glad we agree on the basic facts here.

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      No, people here can’t even afford that garbage. It actually is more economical to buy unprocessed vegetables, beans, meats, fruits and to just cook your own food.

      The only feasible way to participate in the economy is to not be dependent on it to survive.