Authorized Fetch (also referred to as Secure Mode in Mastodon) was recently circumvented by a stupidly easy solution: just sign your fetch requests with some other domain name.

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    Repeat after me: anything I write on the internet should be treated as public information. If I want to keep any conversation private, I will not post it in a public website.

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      I agree with you, however there are issues with not just privacy but also authenticity. I should be able to post as me, even in public, and have a way to prove it. Nobody else should be posting information as me, if that makes sense.

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        For that, we should start bringing our own private keys to the server, instead of trusting the server to control everything.

        And if we start doing that, pretty soon we will end up asking ourselves why do we need the server in the first place, and we will evolve to something like what nostr is doing.

        I’m all for it.

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          …evolve to something like what nostr is doing.

          Giving places for cryptobros to wank without being pointed at and laughed at by their betters?

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                  When I see nostr users that number more than, say, six who aren’t also cryptobros, I’ll drop the nostr disrespect. Until then … 🤷‍♂️

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                    You are doing nothing but a strawman. Lemmy is developed by shit-for-brains tankies, yet there is no denying that their work has brought progress to the distributed web.

                    Same thing for nostr. Whether you like it or not, nostr “cryptobros” have shown a bunch of things that need improvement on the Fediverse and they are backing their words with actions and working code. You on the other hand have nothing but smug, pretentious bullshit to throw around.

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        Sure, but that’s already solved on the fediverse by using HTTP Signatures and isn’t related to Authorized Fetch.

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          11 months ago

          I meant to say generally, for folks that might read this comment and think problems surrounding the platform and security are solved.

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        11 months ago

        Clear sign every post using a third-party application. Make your public keys known far and wide. Authenticity solved.

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      To add a bit of important nuance to this idea (particularly how this argument comes up with regards to threads). This does not apply to legal rights over your content. That is to say, of course you should treat any information you put out there as out of your control with regards to access but if somebody tries to claim legal rights over your content they are probably breaking the law.

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        Right. Publicly available does not mean in public domain. But the issue here is not of copyright, but merely of gated access.

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          Totally. I’m just trying to bring it up whenever I see folks having this discussion because some people don’t seem to make the distinction. Worries me that some are so willing to cede that big social will illegally hoover up our data and there’s nothing we can do about it.

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      anything I write on the internet should be treated as my private information. If I want to keep any conversation private, I will still post it in a public website.

      EDIT: I’m so sorry that my stupid comment offended some people. Always forget how special some people can be on this website. Once again I’m sorry for my lack of better judgement.

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          He thought he was funny, he repeated what the above poster said to repeat.

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        I don’t think your comment was offensive per se. It was just ridiculously naive. If we are trying to build practical tools, they have to fit how things work in the real world, not how they work in anybody’s dreams. If you want to have private conversations on a public website, use encryption.