Why YSK: Information should be free and open for all

Copy and paste the article URL into https://archive.is/ and view an archived version, thus bypassing the paywall

    • BigFig@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      19·
      2 years ago

      12ft doens’t always work for me for some reason, depends on the site. But I’ve never had archive not work. But yes there are many options

    • Solemn@lemmy.oneEnglish
      11·
      2 years ago

      12ft had a few months of being great, but I think they ended up selling out or giving in to legal pressure, and doesn’t do anything on several major news outlets anymore

      • laszlo@kbin.social
        5·
        2 years ago

        That’s my experience, as well. It worked great for a while but I have no luck with it anymore

  • Tempor@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    2 years ago

    These are the ones I use -

    • archive.is/archive.ph the one mentioned in the main post and one that is most effective out of all the options

    • 12ft Ladder - What I like about 12ft.io is that once it gets rid of the paywall, it makes sure the website stays as the mobile site (if you’re using your phone), whilst archive.ph uses the desktop form by default. However, 12ft.io does not work as well as archive.ph

    • Remove Paywall - Even more limited than 12ft.io, but it’s another alternative. As the site says, make sure to add RemovePaywall.com/ ahead of the URL if you want to copy the unpaywalled link.

    • Chip - The most limited option out of all four, I think. Another disadvantage is that I don’t think you can copy the unpaywalled version’s link, unlike the others.

  • Kethal@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    2 years ago

    On Firefox, usually reader mode ignores paywalls. It is also nice for showing pages in a standard format, ignoring the styles of the site, which is nice for sites with crap layouts.

  • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    2 years ago

    Just as a side note (and I’m not advocating for anything, I just think it’s good for people to think things through and have the full picture), the reason why many publications went to a subscription model is that so many people started using ad blockers. The publications have staff who want to be paid for the job they do, and other expenses like server infrastructure. They used to pay for all of that by selling ads on their sites, but then people found ways to avoid seeing ads, so the advertisers didn’t want to pay for them anymore.

    So the publications had a choice between shutting their doors or charging a subscription, and many chose the latter. Now people are using techniques like this to avoid the subscriptions. The publications will either have to figure out a more effective paywall, come up with a different business model, or go out of business.

    • blivet@kbin.social
      8·
      2 years ago

      I wish the micropayments model people were proposing twenty years ago had taken off. I don’t have any interest in subscribing to The New York Times, for example, because I just don’t read it very much, but I wouldn’t object to paying a few cents every time I happened to read one of their articles.

      • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
        6·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, I agree that model is more tenable. Honestly, if the websites hadn’t gotten so riddled with completely obnoxious ads, people might have been less motivated to use ad blockers when they were first available. Our older two kids were teenagers in those days, and told us we should start using them. I told them the same thing about the business model, and they just insisted that the content should be free. I said then, and I say now, that’s unrealistic. I know I wouldn’t work a full time job for no pay, and I wouldn’t expect anyone else to.

        • Reliant1087@lemmy.world
          8·
          2 years ago

          I was perfectly fine with having header/footer/banner ads and left my adblocker off, unfortunately almost all advertisements have become so obnoxiously placed and irritating. If they weren’t so greedy, I feel like most people would have been okay with it.

          I’m okay with my physical newspaper running ads too but not putting super intrusive ones or the ones that are disguised as actual reporting.

          • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
            4·
            2 years ago

            Exactly. All the ads that cover the content, have X’s that you can barely hit without clicking the ad, have autoplay videos, and that kind of thing just made it unlivable.

            • Reliant1087@lemmy.world
              4·
              2 years ago

              Exactly. It makes me wonder why no one has tried a more ethical advertising model. It seems to be either intrusive ads or paying a subscription.

    • JesusTheCarpenter@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      Yes, it’s a weird one. We got used to the fact that everything is pretty much free on the internet. Unfortunately, nothing is free, we either pay with out personal data, watching and interacting with ads or through subscriptions and paywals.

      There is just no incentive for people to provide good content on the internet unless they have other means of sustaining themselves or they charge for it.

      For instance, there is so much free stuff thanks to developers making their hard work open source. However, they are only able to do it because even if they are not getting payed for this, either they have a job that pays for other work they do or they have access to other means of financial support like family for instance. And I am not saying that much of open source (not all) is not essentially people giving away their hard work for free but I am saying that if the choice was to make some program for free and go hungry or charge for it and have a meal then we all know what it would look like.

      • SisyphusOnStrike@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Almost makes it seem like a UBI would be a good way to support the people who do work that no one wants to actually pay for (usually because the people avoiding payment aren’t getting paid enough in the first place)

  • jcup@kbin.social
    10·
    2 years ago

    A lot of articles load all of the content before the paywall, so another easy (but kind of scuffed) option is to just stop the page from loading after the content has loaded but before the paywall has

    • roofuskit@kbin.social
      9·
      2 years ago

      That’s some real quick draw skill for a lot of people with good computers/phones and gigabit speed internet.

      • jcup@kbin.social
        7·
        2 years ago

        Hahaha you got me there! This little hack may be more feasible for those with shoddy xfinity internet like myself

  • gds@kbin.social
    8·
    2 years ago

    Reader view in mobile Safari often works. As does switching to a private window. Failing that Google usually has a cache if archive.is doesn’t.

    • Fmstrat@lemmy.one
      6·
      2 years ago

      Same in Firefox. And if you only get the preview in reader mode, refresh after you are in reader mode.

  • dryguy@kbin.social
    7·
    2 years ago

    A lot of paywalls disappear when you turn off javascript. I use a plugin that adds a button to quickly toggle javascript for specific web pages. It works for a large percentage of paywalled articles. On the few paywalled sites where I actually use javascript, it is easy to just turn it back on again when needed. The plugin I use is JavaScript Switcher, but there are others out there.

    • milkpiss
      8·
      2 years ago

      uBlock Origin can do this too, there’s a button that looks something like </> that will disable JS

      • dryguy@kbin.social
        2·
        2 years ago

        I did not know about reader mode. It seems that it is unavailable for some websites, so it can still be useful to switch off JavaScript in those cases.

  • Badabinski@kbin.social
    6·
    2 years ago

    There’s also txtify.it, which bypasses paywalls and reduces the content down to plaintext. It looks like butt in Chrome (due to Chrome’s poor handling of plaintext sites), but Firefox does a better job. Works like 12ft.io, just replace the https:// at the start of your URL with txtify.it/