I almost spit out my 9th glass of wine the other day when I read what one young voter in Philadelphia told NBC News about why she is disillusioned about the upcoming presidential election.
“I don’t think the presidency has too much of an effect on what happens in my day-to-day life,” said Pru Carmichael, who supported Biden in 2020 but says she will not vote for president at all this year if she has to choose between the disappointing incumbent and former President Trump.
Seriously?
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Read more from Robin Abcarian Maybe she believes she will never have an unintended, unwanted pregnancy. (However, if she does, she is lucky enough to live in Pennsylvania, where abortion is still legal.)
But how can she not appreciate the profound changes the Trump presidency inflicted on this country? Had there been no President Trump, there would be no ultraconservative majority on the Supreme Court, no Dobbs decision overturning nearly half a century of reproductive rights, no outright abortion bans in 13 states and no suffering by people like Kate Cox of Texas, who was forced to seek abortion care in another state after the Texas Supreme Court said she could not abort her severely compromised fetus, who suffered a condition that was incompatible with life.
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In 2020, the youngest American voters were squarely in Biden’s corner. According to exit polls, 65% of those 18 to 24 years old chose him, the largest percentage of any age group. And yet, if recent national polls are to be believed, voters up to age 34 have grown disenchanted with the president. Perhaps this is a reflection on the impatience of youth, or, worse, a fundamentally weak grasp on how government operates.
Listen to what younger voters told NBC News they’re upset about: the country’s slow pace on reversing climate change, Biden’s failure to fully cancel student loan debt, his inability to federally codify the right to abortion and, perhaps most starkly, his handling of Israel’s war against Hamas and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
“I mean, he made a lot of really big promises in his campaign and virtually none of them were followed through on,” one poll respondent, Austin Kapp, 25, of Colorado, told NBC News.
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Well, hey. The president doesn’t operate in a vacuum.
He did try to cancel student loan debt, and managed to erasenearly $132 billion of it, but the Supreme Court’s right-wing majority blocked his plan to cancel so much more.
He did try to codify Roe, but was unable to marshal the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster by Senate Republicans.
And what has Trump been doing about abortion, besides taking credit for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade? He’s urging Republicans to mislead voters: “In order to win in 2024, Republicans must learn how to properly talk about abortion,” he told a group of Iowa supporters in September. “This issue cost us unnecessarily but dearly in the midterms.”
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We now know, thanks to the horrific experience of Cox and other women who have brought suit in Texas, that the idea of an “exception” to abortion bans for cases of rape, incest, fetal anomalies or the health of the pregnant person is nothing more than a shimmering lie, a mirage to make abortion bans slightly more palatable to the majority of Americans who support a woman’s right to choose.
As for the Middle East crisis, even if you agree that Biden’s handling of the situation has been uneven, why would anyone think Trump, an outspoken supporter of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, would handle it better, particularly if your sympathies lie more with the Palestinians caught in the violence than the Israeli government’s response to the Oct. 7 Hamas attack?
On the campaign trail, Trump has signaled a lack of engagement in the conflict, suggesting that he would “let this play out.” His one concrete suggestion? In an interview with Univision in November, he said that Israel needed to “do a better job of public relations, frankly, because the other side is beating them at the public relations front.”
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He has also pledged to “revoke the student visas of radical anti-American and antisemitic foreigners at our colleges and universities, and we will send them straight back home.” (Muslim ban, anyone?) Does that sound like an appealing counter-message for the 70% of voters under 35 who told NBC News pollsters they disapprove of the way Biden has handled the war?
With 2024 upon us, and the first contests of the Republican presidential primaries set to take place on Jan. 15 in Iowa and on Jan. 23 in New Hampshire, barring some unforeseen development it could become clear very quickly that the much-indicted Trump is bound for the November ballot as the Republican presidential nominee.
A Suffolk University/USA Today poll released on New Year’s Day showed that Trump is out-polling Biden among groups the pollsters described as “stalwarts of the Democratic base,” that is, Hispanics and younger voters. Biden’s support among Black Americans has also slipped significantly, though he still leads Trump.
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This is alarming, not catastrophic. Biden, and Democrats, have time to make their case. I remain skeptical that the Democratic base will not come home by November, particularly as Trump continues to embrace his inner dictator on the campaign trail.
“A Republican getting elected isn’t the end. It is the beginning of a much larger fight,” a 23-year-old Wisconsin Starbucks worker and union organizer who is considering withholding his vote from Biden told NBC News. “I want to show the Democratic Party as a young person that you still need to earn our vote and if you don’t, the consequences will be your career.”
Teach Democrats a lesson by electing a democracy-destroying authoritarian?
My mother used to call that cutting off your dick to spite your ass.
“I don’t think the presidency has too much of an effect on what happens in my day-to-day life,” said Pru Carmichael, who supported Biden in 2020 but says she will not vote for president at all this year if she has to choose between the disappointing incumbent and former President Trump.
Seriously?
Maybe she believes she will never have an unintended, unwanted pregnancy. (However, if she does, she is lucky enough to live in Pennsylvania, where abortion is still legal.)Yes, thank you for being condescending about Pru’s position while validating it in the same sentence.
Did they forget who was president when Roe v. Wade was overturned?
Lol she does mention it but blames Trump’s packed supreme court for it.
Of course liberals will never consider that literally any republican would have packed the court when it was wide open for packing like that, noooo it must ne the uniquely evil Trump
Never mind Obungler leaving the court open like that because everyone assumed was gonna win
There are many things Trump deserves blame for, this isn’t really one of them
Or the fact that Dems had almost 50 years, several times in which they had majorities in both houses of congress + the presidency, where they could have codified abortion rights into law, yet they didn’t.
That is the correct assignment of blame and I’m not really sure why you’re mocking it. How do you think Supreme Court rulings work?
They are mocking it because simply writing it off as “Trump’s packed supreme court” is a perfect example of the failings of the democratic party and exactly why voters like Pru Carmichael feel like they do. It treats the issue as being an unassailable reality that could not have ever been avoided and completely ignores the fact that there has never been a shortage of options to address the problem both leading up to and after Trump’s appointments but at this point those options require measures like packing the court which the democratic party and Joe Biden have made clear they are not willing to entertain.
Just do us all a favor and admit you want four years of fascism
Damn it’s almost as if states are doing the legwork for Biden…
As for the Middle East crisis, even if you agree that Biden’s handling of the situation has been uneven, why would anyone think Trump, an outspoken supporter of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, would handle it better, particularly if your sympathies lie more with the Palestinians caught in the violence than the Israeli government’s response to the Oct. 7 Hamas attack?
“Uneven”? Is that what they’re calling open support of a genocide now?
It’s so fucking weaselly, by making that point about Trump being buddies with Netanyahu she is all but saying the thing is bad, while at the same time trying to soft ball Biden DOING THE FUCKING THING as if it’s some kind of “hard truth you just have to accept.” So which one fucking is it then? Pick a lane, asshole
“But Trump would also support a genoci-”
Great, kill both of them and maybe you’ll get my attention.
The 18-to-25 set is annoyed about climate change, student loans, abortion bans and Gaza. Why on Earth would they think a Biden win would help?
Was going to say no one’s voting, there’s a huge group of people who don’t vote for this literal exact reason, election after election, they’re totally ignored and told to eat shit.
tough shit fuckheads try having good policies
The 18-to-25 set is annoyed about climate change, student loans, abortion bans and Gaza. Why on Earth would they think a Biden win would help?
Mostly because the decades of progress in those areas have came from Dems and they are not stupid? Trump would go the opposite direction that they want to go.
decades of progress in those areas have came from Dems
There hasn’t been a shred of progress from the US on any of those things
Well that’s not true. And Republicans want to ban abortion, remove environmental regulations, ect. If they want abortion access why on earth would they vote for Trump?
Genocide Joe spent 99% of his political career opposing women having access to abortion under any circumstances and you’re gullible enough to think he’s changed
Biden still won’t even say the word abortion.
Well that’s not true.
Oh, guess that settles that then.
climate change, student loans, abortion bans and Gaza
Dems have not done anything on these issues. The closest they’ve come to any progress is some extremely watered down student loan debt relief that dems let Republicans hold up and water down even more. They haven’t done shit on climate change. They did absolutely nothing when Roe was overturned (and did nothing for 50 years to codify it into law). A dem admin is actively supporting genocide in Gaza.
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why on earth would they vote for Trump?
Not voting for dems isn’t voting for Trump
If only they just hadn’t done shit on climate change, they’ve expanded oil drilling so goddamn much
“That was me!”
that’s true. Thanks Obama
a person’s willingness to vote for a person that won’t fucking help them is not impacted by some alternative “being worse” (but who is, really, mostly the same)
Well that’s not true. And Republicans want to ban abortion, remove environmental regulations, ect. If they want abortion access why on earth would they vote for Trump?
Who was in charge when abortion rights went backwards?
Who has been in charge while environmental regulations get gutted?
Who has been in charge while trans people face genocide legislation in half the country?
Nobody is naive about this shit anymore. Nobody believes the dems actually do anything anymore. They do fucking nothing and block anyone that would try to do something, so that the other side can slowly inch things rightwards one little increment at a time.
Today’s democrats are to the right of Thatcher and Reagan. The US has done nothing but march further and further rightwards for the last 30 years. It has never - not a single time - taken even a single step leftwards during that time.
Guess what the democrat immigration policy is? The same as Trumps was. Guess what the kids are still in cages on the border. The democrat Covid response was WORSE than the republican response under Trump. He actually gave people some money to survive locking down lmao.
How are you this fucking naive? Why are you americans so fucking housebroken and servile?
Well Trump is literally on TV this week claiming he made abortion illegal and that it was a miracle. So assuming voters are in this reality and not wherever you are from I am pretty confident that voters know as well.
Biden is actively going in the opposite direction on all of those issues.
You’re out of touch, friend.
“That’s right, three elections, one platform: We’re Not Trump!”
annoyed about climate change, student loans, abortion bans and Gaza
annoyed about
annoyed
yes it’s true the kids are feeling somewhat put out by all the genocide and planet-killing. those silly billies, don’t they understand there are more important things at stake here???
this person should spend the rest of their life living in a latrine
Closer to 30 than 25, but hell, if the dems aren’t gonna take their own shit seriously what’s my reason to? We’re on track to make Kerry look dignified. Might as well get my little “A plague on both your houses” bit in on the way out.
Might as well get my little “A plague on both your houses” bit in on the way out.
Yeah but reality is still a bit ahead of us on that one
too risky, sorry
I’m gonna use this one.
Really, blue maga? You want to teach me a lesson by letting Trump back into the white house instead of voting psl with me?
Teach Democrats a lesson
We want actual fucking change, liberal deadenders stop projecting your fetish for punishment and control onto people with actual principles challenge, difficulty level ontologically impossible.
im thinking if they want people to vote for them, they should use the power they’ve been granted in past elections to pass legislation to benefit the demographics they’re relying on. that’s just what I think tho
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” – Chuck Schumer, 2016
Their position then, their position now. They are entirely incapable of learning anything.
To be fair to them that is basically what worked out in 2020. Now can your reliably recapture that bloc once they forget to be embarrassed by Don? I guess 2024 will decide that, since they seem determined to rerun their last play.
They can’t because the republicans wont let them! If only we could have picked RBG’s replacement ARRRGH
First of all, you fucked up the link
Second of all, I can tell from the title that this is a Dunk Tank post so why isn’t it in the Dunk Tank