Dark comedy still exists, but the lazy comedy stylings of my 50 yo homophobe, racist uncle seems to be out of fashion. These old guard stand up comics aren’t funny anymore and no one is obligated to buy tickets to their shows.
“The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forego one’s own.” -The Satanic Temple’s Fourth Tenet
However. I also believe the right to be offended is one of the freedoms we all have. There’s a lot of discussion over what this tenet truly means. I believe it should work hand-in-hand with the other tenets, which include “one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone,” “one should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason,” and “every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.”
I take it to mean that yes, you do have the right to offend, but also to be offended when someone violated your own personal freedoms. To say something that challenges someone’s understanding of the world may offend them, but that doesn’t mean its wrong. However, the use of the freedom to offend should be used sparingly, and with caution.
But if we start telling people they’re not allowed to say things that are offensive to us, then that same logic can turn back on us later when we say something offensive to them. Pretty soon, nobody will be allowed to say anything. People should be free to express their opinions, so long as they abide by the rest of the tenets, in my opinion.
But, that doesn’t mean we need to give people who are out to offend others bigger platforms to spread their messages. We don’t even have to listen to them.
I’m reminded of the famous Voltaire quote, “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
This is a complex topic, and I’m worried I’m not making my message clear enough here. Let me try to boil it down to a more direct response.
I do not agree that people are “too easily offended nowadays,” but I do agree that people have the right to say things that might offend. I think people have the right to be offended about whatever they want. But they do not have the right to impose their own beliefs on others. If you want to say something offensive that I don’t agree with, knock yourself out. But if you want to try prohibit me from saying something offensive to you, you can fuck right off.
It’s a fine line. Yes, you have the right to offend others, but not the right to control them.
What you’re seeing is that people no longer feel the need to keep their mouth shut when they don’t like the joke. In previous generations, they had no platform and, in some cases, their physical safety was at risk. Social media has given them a voice and community where they can share their opinion.
At the same time, corporations only give a shit about profits, not art. They’ll chase whatever makes them more money. If they don’t think that people will watch something, they won’t fund it.
Combine those and you have folks willing and able to tell corporations they won’t buy something they don’t like. But, of course, that can be outweighed by actual purchases. Netflix keeps shoveling money at Chappelle; people must be keeping their subscriptions to watch him. Substack recently announced they’ll host and monetize Nazi newsletters. J.K. Rowling continues to be Andrew Tate for women and pulls huge residual checks.
So if you want more offensive things in the world, seek it out and pay for it. Corporations will churn it out if there is demand. Just don’t expect people to only judge you quietly; they have tools to be loud now.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. People are too easily offended nowadays.
How arrogant do you have to be that you feel that everyone has to only do / say things that don’t offend you?
Dark comedy still exists, but the lazy comedy stylings of my 50 yo homophobe, racist uncle seems to be out of fashion. These old guard stand up comics aren’t funny anymore and no one is obligated to buy tickets to their shows.
I know, right? You never see anything like this in the mainstream any more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NE_kbJQ8r8
“The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forego one’s own.” -The Satanic Temple’s Fourth Tenet
However. I also believe the right to be offended is one of the freedoms we all have. There’s a lot of discussion over what this tenet truly means. I believe it should work hand-in-hand with the other tenets, which include “one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone,” “one should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason,” and “every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.”
I take it to mean that yes, you do have the right to offend, but also to be offended when someone violated your own personal freedoms. To say something that challenges someone’s understanding of the world may offend them, but that doesn’t mean its wrong. However, the use of the freedom to offend should be used sparingly, and with caution.
But if we start telling people they’re not allowed to say things that are offensive to us, then that same logic can turn back on us later when we say something offensive to them. Pretty soon, nobody will be allowed to say anything. People should be free to express their opinions, so long as they abide by the rest of the tenets, in my opinion.
But, that doesn’t mean we need to give people who are out to offend others bigger platforms to spread their messages. We don’t even have to listen to them.
I’m reminded of the famous Voltaire quote, “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
This is a complex topic, and I’m worried I’m not making my message clear enough here. Let me try to boil it down to a more direct response.
I do not agree that people are “too easily offended nowadays,” but I do agree that people have the right to say things that might offend. I think people have the right to be offended about whatever they want. But they do not have the right to impose their own beliefs on others. If you want to say something offensive that I don’t agree with, knock yourself out. But if you want to try prohibit me from saying something offensive to you, you can fuck right off.
It’s a fine line. Yes, you have the right to offend others, but not the right to control them.
What you’re seeing is that people no longer feel the need to keep their mouth shut when they don’t like the joke. In previous generations, they had no platform and, in some cases, their physical safety was at risk. Social media has given them a voice and community where they can share their opinion.
At the same time, corporations only give a shit about profits, not art. They’ll chase whatever makes them more money. If they don’t think that people will watch something, they won’t fund it.
Combine those and you have folks willing and able to tell corporations they won’t buy something they don’t like. But, of course, that can be outweighed by actual purchases. Netflix keeps shoveling money at Chappelle; people must be keeping their subscriptions to watch him. Substack recently announced they’ll host and monetize Nazi newsletters. J.K. Rowling continues to be Andrew Tate for women and pulls huge residual checks.
So if you want more offensive things in the world, seek it out and pay for it. Corporations will churn it out if there is demand. Just don’t expect people to only judge you quietly; they have tools to be loud now.
Does anything offend you?
Yup, but then I just don’t consume that stuff
Oh so people should know whether a person or situation will offend them before they get offended?
They should realise that if it offends them, then stop watching or consuming. Stop purposely misinterpreting what I say.
Well to be fair you don’t really do a good job of explaining yourself.
What’s there to explain? Just don’t consume things that offend you. Simple enough, I’d think.