New subreddit talking about it here. I’m assuming it will eventually be a Lemmy community
lol:
I’m genuinely excited though. I’ve been a long time sync user, and I’d love to see similar features available for Lemmy!
like if the app is serving different content than the browser…
Holy shit, what a dumpster fire
But in the app they can fingerprint you better, allowing them to better identify the criminal scum using third party apps.
It’s the experience of viewing the content you grumpy person!
Obviously lemmy.world isnt the ideal location for beehaw users to follow but you dont need to be logged in to view content so I’d suggest just browsing the syncforlemmy community natively for now. Right now there are no official posts by ljdawson anyways.
Yes this is the better link to not provide traffic to reddit.
Seems like a consequence of beehaw’s actions
I mean yes it is a consequence of beehaw’s actions. Those actions were justified though and the consequences mild considering how easy it is to view a community without being logged in.
I’m not sure why you’re so defensive about it, but ok?
Im not being defensive. I’m agreeing with you but adding context for other people. It’s legitimately consequences of beehaw’s actions. Those actions have a valid reason though.
Your post is specifically worded/presented in a way to illicit a reaction from people, which you got. So it’s fair for me to qualify my answer when I agree with you.
it may seem that way, but that’s not accurate. something had to be done to stem the trolls and lemmy doesn’t provide any tools for less severe action.
You’re describing the reasoning behind the decision. The fact that this is a consequence of that decision remains the same.
I don’t agree. I think it’s disingenuous to isolate the decision from the context as if it were made unprompted. it comes across as if you are blaming the admins for something you don’t like - if that’s not your intent, then what is ?
I think it’s disingenuous to isolate the decision from the context as if it were made unprompted.
There’s nothing in my comment to suggest that, and I think you’re projecting here.
it comes across as if you are blaming the admins for something you don’t like - if that’s not your intent, then what is ?
I think many unintended consequences occurred from the defederation, and this situation is an excellent tangible example of that.
I don’t think it was unintended in the sense that the admins didn’t expect these consequences. At least to me, on their posts they seem very aware that what they’re doing is very damaging, but they were stuck with choosing between the lesser of two evils, and they choose what was going to keep them more sane for now.
Fantastic news! Sync was my main client of choice. I will be more than happy to toss the dev a few more bucks.
Same
Looks like I need a Lemmy account!
Hopefully kbin API will become compatible with Lemmy’s soon
Or someone just makes a library that supports both.
That’s what I’m hoping for. I don’t want a bunch of accounts depending on what device I’m using, I want to have one account on a platform that I like and have good interfaces for using it.
That’s why I left reddit, they removed my ability to do that by killing Boost.
A kbin API is in the works, if we manage to make it compatible with lemmy this app would be usable for kbin as well.
Hey, I’m from the sync exodus! Super excited.
This accelerated my plans to join Lemmy immensely and, et voila. Sync is probably the best software app I have on my phone, simply from a design perspective.
Yesssssssss.
Glad to know I can hopefully still continue to use sync after the 30th :D
ljdawson said it could be 6-8 weeks for an mvp, you might use a pwa in the meantime
That’s incredible news, I’ve always used Sync
I switched away from Sync to Boost some years ago, but would happily switch back for a Fediverse app. Jerboa is okay, but it doesn’t have the slick look I’ve come to expect from reddit apps like Sync and Boost.
Jerboa has a couple of weird UI issues, like losing your scroll position when you exit a comments thread, and I could do with it having a bit more contrast in the ‘threaded comments’ view, see who said what - it’s a bit pale for my eyes. But it makes some things much easier than the desktop view of Lemmy, like navigating all the federation.
Jerboa also doesn’t have volume button comment navigation, which was one of my favorite features
I think Christian mentioned he isn’t planning to port Apollo to Lemmy, but I haven’t given up hope just yet!
I didn’t know that, he say why?
He mentioned it in his “Apollo will close down on June 30th” post on /r/ApolloApp (I’m linking it here, but here’s the quote so you don’t have to gift Reddit your traffic):
Will you build a competitor? Move to one of the existing alternatives?
I’ve received so many messages of kind people offering to work with me to build a competitor to Reddit, and while I’m very flattered, that’s not something I’m interested in doing. I’m a product guy, I like building fun apps for people to use, and I’m just not personally interested in something more managerial.
These last several months have also been incredibly exhausting and mentally draining, I don’t have it in me to engage in something so enormous.
Ok I had read that too. A different interpretation of your take on that is that he builds products (the app that accesses content) not the whole platform itself (Reddit or Lemmy). So it’s still possible he could build an app for Lemmy. He just wouldn’t try to build the whole ecosystem like Lemmy is.
I sure hope you’re right, but as the title also includes “Move to one of the existing alternatives?” I interpreted it as a no.
But you know, we’ll see down the line :)
Apollo set the bar for the next app to meet/exceed.
I think what he’s getting at here is people asking him about building an alternative platform to Reddit - much like Lemmy, Kbin, Tildes, etc. are - as opposed to an app serving as the frontend for an existing alternative platform. I’ve seen poeple buzzing about that on some of those threads about Apollo on Reddit. Those people are so in denial, and there were so many of them, that I couldn’t conjure to effort to point how ridiculous that idea is. Some people did, and were quickly shut down with the usual complaints (fediverse is confusing / doesn’t work, etc.)
The whole insistence that the fediverse is too complicated is so strange to me. People are acting like you need to know how to federate multiple servers in order to make/read posts. It’s been exactly the same experience as setting up an account on any other website for me. The only difference is I had to spend five minutes understanding what an instance and how to find communities on instances that are not my own.
Some people are just fundamentally resistant to any kind of change, I suppose.
I thought I was getting the hang of it until I couldn’t find communities. I pasted the link into jerboa and it still can’t find it… I can see the community on a feddit directory but I can’t find it in jerboa.
I don’t know about Jerboa, but this happens on the web too, and it’s usually on more fringe / less popular communities. There’s a workaround that works for me, I mostly heard about it from someone else here on Lemmy. It’s not great user experience, but it works.
- Go to the search function;
- Type in the name of the community, hit enter;
- Select “Commnities” on the search type dropdown (yes, you have to do it after submitting the search as per the previous steps, seems like another UI bug);
- If after doing the above the community is not found, then here enters the magic sauce:
- Change the search terms so the community is fully qualified / keyed as
!communityname@instance.server
, all in lowercase. So, for example, if you’re looking for the “kreisvegs” community on feddit.de, type!kreisvegs@feddit.de
on the search field; - Submit. It still won’t be found. Give it a few seconds, change back the search terms to only the community name (without the instace and “!” at the start). Submit. It should now show up.
- Change the search terms so the community is fully qualified / keyed as
You may have to repeat step 4 onwards a couple times, sometimes.
My uneducated guess as to what’s happening: the federated communities listing is probably cached on the instance, and by default it’ll only look for communities cached on your instance. My guess is that federated communities only gets into the instance cache when members of the current instance have searched / subscribed to that community. Typing the fully qualified community name on the search field (which is the tip I got from someone else) apparently forces the search function to actually contact the external instance to look for the community, instead of looking in the cache, but that can take some time, hence why you should wait a few seconds on the 6th step. That guess could also explain the problem also happening on Jerboa, since the problem would be server-side.
It may be a bug, I’ve been seeing some weird quirks in Jeroba myself, though I’ll admit I’m still figuring it out.
and pretty soon you won’t even need that level of information
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1048
Once these are solved, it’ll be identical to reddit in terms of knowledge needed.
I agree. It’s just people being lazy and resistant to change. The irony is that it was exactly those “big techs” that bred this kind of behavior on them, now they turn around to criticize those big techs, but have no spine to do what actually takes to change that, so they keep on taking the abuse.
That’s kinda ignorant of the HUGE amount of work it takes to build an alternative Reddit, not to mention the community management and moderation tools.
Why not just deploy a Lemmy instance, turn off federation and call it a day?
Apollo is also more than just a consumer for an API, they run their own servers as well create a better user experience.
Great news!, if kbin implements a lemmy-like api (which is being discussed) this app would be entirely compatible as well!
kbin + Sync is the dream. Hopefully the kbin dev(s?) Can make that happen. At this point I’m only using Lemmy because jerboa is somewhat serviceable and I don’t like either web UI on mobile
Mlem is a good beginning, but I hope for an Apollo-level quality app for Lemmy. It’ll come, in time. And perhaps SyncForLemmy will be just that!
I think it’s only a matter of time. I hope Lemmy/fediverse keeps up the momentum, it’s so great being off Reddit.
Have to assume it’ll be Android-only like Sync for Reddit is/was, right?
Likely at first, but Sync for Reddit has a TestFlight for an iOS Version. I suspect that effort could be carried over if the porting process isn’t too arduous.
There was a Sync for iOS beta at one point… in the dark days before Apollo.
I have been using Mlem for a while and the last update or two through TestFlight have completely gotten rid of crashes (for me!). I know a lot of features are missing, but Mlem seems to be going in a great direction.
There is another new app that seems to be taking some inspiration from Apollo. It’s also meant to work with kbin (kbin support first since it lacks any apps currently). https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp
There’s also Memmy. https://testflight.apple.com/join/6jaRU6rD
But it’s also unfinished
I’m testing Memmy and it’s rapidly being amazing, super impressed
And Thunder (ios and android) https://github.com/hjiangsu/thunder
That one looks great!
Last time I checked it wasn’t on any of the stores - now it’s listed on FDroid from the izzysoft repo!
https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/com.hjiangsu.thunder
That is our goal with Mlem. And trust me, our team is working, as absolutely fast as we can! Keep in mind, though, we’re starting from scratch. 😁
I’m using the app now, and it has seen some real improvements.
Are you guys taking feedback seriously? I don’t want to dump it in a circular bin.
Thank you for working on this! I love Mlem and am excited to see how it develops.
Ah great, i was almost giving up on such a thing happening (the other devs doing great work tho of course)
Awesome news, hopefully rif will follow suit
When I used Android Sync was my favorite client and it wasn’t even close for second place. But I’m iOS now so I will patiently wait for someone to build something great over here. Android users are lucky to have such a great dev moving over to Lemmy!
My Reddit app of choice, definitely psyched for this.