• TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world
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    Moderating is volunteer work. *Spez exhibits unlikeable characteristics. Why volunteer for someone who exhibits unlikeable characteristics?

    *Edited from “Spez is a narcissist. Why volunteer for a narcissist?”

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      Because I’m sure all those people aren’t volonteering for spez but rather the subs users, the ones that keep their communities alive because of their shared interests.

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      “Narcissist” is a psychological term describing a person with NPD, a disability in ego regulation. There is no evidence that Spez is disabled, neurodivergent, or otherwise mentally disordered. Even if he did suffer from ego disability, there are plenty of good reasons to hate him, and hating someone for being disabled is a bad reason. Comments like this one contribute to the stigma faced by mentally disordered people.

      • TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world
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        OK; he has such a need for control that he modified toxic comments directed at him.

        On November 23, 2016, a member of a subreddit dedicated to Donald Trump, /r/The_Donald, posted evidence indicating that Reddit administrators had modified multiple user comments inside the subreddit. Following this post, Huffman took responsibility for the comment modifications, writing, “Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won’t do this again.” His administrative modifications involved changing one specific insulting phrase, in several comments, to make them appear as if the insults were directed toward the moderators of the subreddit instead of him.

        https://gizmodo.com/reddit-ceo-caught-secretly-editing-user-comments-chatl-1789342358

        You might not like Ellen Pao, but it’s funny that the NBA sided with her comments against him in 2020:

        https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/reddit-slammed-by-former-ceo-ellen-pao-for-amplifying-racism-and-hate-nfl-nba/

        When moderators protested in 2023, Spez compared them to Landed Gentry.

        “And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.”

        https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-protest-blackout-ceo-steve-huffman-moderators-rcna89544

        Reddit was founded in 2005. In January of 2008, Reddit decides to let users create their own custom reddits, or subreddits.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Reddit

        So the Landed Gentry are from 2008 + (15 years). How many Parent-to-child hand-offs can you really expect in that time?

        He belittles volunteers (moderators). He has manipulated the site. He is currently scrubbing the site of disparaging comments about himself now.

        https://lemmy.world/post/392621

        He is not someone to volunteer your services for. Moderation is like gardening. It’s a never-ending activity of pulling weeds.

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          You listed a lot of great reasons to hate Spez, and none of them are that he’s disabled. I said in my comment that there are plenty of good reasons to hate Spez, and that hating him for being disabled is a bad reason. It seems like we fundamentally agree on the premise that Spez is a garbage dickbag, and why. Since we agree so strongly, maybe you could edit your top level comment to remove the part where you call him a narcissist. That way we can focus on bad things that he’s done rather than an alleged disability.

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            Ok, I have edited my comment to “*Spez exhibits unlikeable characteristics. Why volunteer for someone who exhibits unlikeable characteristics?” better now?

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            Narcissism has existed long before the DSM. I’m not certain why it should be inferred that someone is disabled or have NPD if they are simply a narcissist.

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              Because the term “narcissist” entered the public discourse as a shorthand for “person with narcissistic personality disorder”, and that’s what pop psychologists, self help book writers, and lifestyle gurus mean when they say narcissist. That’s where the word’s use in pop culture comes from. It refers to a person with an ego disability.