• Dkarma@lemmy.world
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    1. Kids can’t consent. Parents do it for them in every aspect. This is no different. Making medical decisions for your kids is normal.
    2. You have no reason to be bitter about a legitimate pre emptive procedure to prevent smegma and potential phimosis
    3. Male circ is a safe and sometimes necessary procedure.
    4. Why cant you people be honest? You’re bitter we get it. But lying about circumcision is just stupid and doesn’t convince anyone to not do it.
    5. Everyone should Google phimosis. Anti circ ppl love to lie about there being no medical reason or excuse it away.
    6. It’s none of your business what other people do with their bodies.
    7. There is nothing harmful here at all. It’s no different than removing a skin tag. Demonizing it is laughable.
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      Google says phimosis is fixed easily and is rare to begin with. I think being passionate on either side is silly

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          I’m circumcised and happy about it because of conversations I’ve had various women about dicks in general and my dick in particular with a few of them. That being said if I ever have a son, he won’t be circumcised. Unless his mom is Jewish I guess. But I don’t understand the anger around the subject at all.

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            I’m circumcised, my son is not. If it is your religion, have at it. But forcing religious traditions onto those that don’t have a say is problematic. It’s getting better, but it’s still pushed in hospitals unnecessarily.

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            It’s good you’re able to talk sanely about it.

            But I don’t understand the anger around the subject at all.

            It’s simply a subject of personal autonomy and body integrity.

            Imagine being a grown man or just a teenager and being forced to perform that operation without your consent nor any explanation (as it’s mostly useless out of social norms and potentially harmful). I guess you’d be furious, at least.

            That’s it.

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              But it’s not happening to grown men or teenagers against their will. It’s happening to people when they won’t remember it and the idea is it prevents minor annoyances about being a man. Archaic and unnecessary? Definitely. But getting mad at people isn’t going to change their mind and doesn’t help people understand it’s unnecessary. That said, being someone who has a mentally unhealthy aversion to bathing, I’m really glad I don’t have to even think about “smegma” I didn’t even know it was a thing until I was fully grown.

              Edit: to be clear, I don’t think anyone should do that to their kids. If you can’t teach your kid to clean themselves you probably shouldn’t have them to begin with. I just think it’s more helpful for future kids if their parents aren’t circumcising them because they don’t want to agree with the annoying angry people online. It would be more helpful to spread knowledge without judgement or making people feel shameful for something they thought was good. That’s how you get people to double down.

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      This is the dumbest fucking list of bullshit

      1. Kids can’t consent. Eyup.
      2. Cutting of a body part to avoid cleaning it is a unique kind of stupid argument.
      3. Nobody is against it when it’s necessary. That’s what is known as a strawman argument.
      4. No one is lying. You are the one trying to convince someone to do something. Not doing anything is the fucking default.
      5. Again, addressing phimosis is NOT the issue people are against.
      6. Babies are not capable of doing anything to their bodies.
      7. It can absolutely be harmful and comparing the removal of nerves and tissue from genitalia to a skin tag is so stupid that I actually think you’re trolling.
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        Thanks for this lol. I started to respond yesterday but as I was thinking about their arguments halfway through I decided it wasn’t worth my time or energy (validated by their response to this comment LOL).

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        You’re being 100% dishonest and misinformative in your post.

        Why u guys gotta double down on your complete lies when called out?
        It’s pathetic. Mind u own business and cope with ur sad doggy penis.

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          Lol. This mf here getting their bs called out point by point with simple rhetorical counters and retorts with a solid “No u. And you have a dumb pee pee.” Epic.