• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      this is depressing.

      I’m not going to comment on whether or not Hamas’ attack was genocidal, because even if they meant it to be, I just don’t they have the capability. but like… Israel is bombing fucking hospitals and refugee camps inside the strip. That’s not how you go about “avoiding civilian casualties”.

      the only side worth supporting here are the civilians caught in the middle.

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          10 months ago

          Israel also uses human shields and they have been at the core of its expansion policy for decades. They call them “settlers.”

          This double standard pisses me off more than just about anything else about the conflict. Israel is the undisputed champion of using civilians as cover for its military and expansionist goals.

          And before anyone tries to claim this bullshit that they are acting without the authority of the state, first tell me who Netanyahu put in charge of settlement policy.

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          Israel tells you this and you just take their word for it.

          Al Shifa was supposed to be a Hamas command center. Israel promised us it was a command center, they gave us audio recordings as proof, they had a whole mockup of the suspected underground facilities.

          There wasn’t shit, just a sub basement Israel dug.

          Stop believing Israel.

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          10 months ago

          you’re not wrong.

          but we’re still waiting for proof that Hamas has used a hospital as a base of operations.

          another thing everyone knows: The IDF lies.

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              10 months ago

              And also take hostages.

              Oh. I’m sorry. They detain protestors with no due process and round up more suspects when they make a swap…

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          Human shields should not be used. Human shields should not be bombed. I know this sounds like enlightened centrism, but it’s pretty clear, only the civilians were innocent. I cannot, simply cannot, support bombing a human shield. There is no point in defending it.

          “Hamas uses human shields and has been for a long time. We know this. Everyone knows this.” only points to a clear bad guy if the human shield isn’t bombed. Never have I uttered one breath of support for Hamas. Using a human shield is deplorable.

          Many different nations expressed support for the US in war efforts after 9/11. That support slowly dwindled as more and more atrocities were reported. Israel is speedrunning support loss.