• PugJesus@kbin.socialOP
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      8 months ago

      Note: This is sure as shit not meant to downplay or deny Israel’s ongoing genocide. Only to point out the absurdity of some online leftists in simping for Hamas and expressing disbelief that far-right theocrats with a history of committing terrible crimes would commit terrible crimes.

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        8 months ago

        I saw that, which is why I didn’t label the character “OP.” It was intended more of a response in general, not a specific criticism of you.

      • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        In my view it’s rare that anyone really ‘simps for Hamas’, they are the leading militant group in Gaza opposing the Israeli state though so if there are victories against IDF forces it’s usually going to be under that umbrella, and praising a victory against IDF is not the same as praising past terror attacks. I’ve never heard anyone confused that they are communist. There are Marxist-Leninist groups in Palestine though, like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

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        8 months ago

        What are you talking about? It is a conflict between two parties and everybody knows that things have to be black and white!!

        I demand to know which of the two are the good guys!

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        8 months ago

        By creating and attacking a strawman here you’re distracting from the important points. Hamas is a direct response to the oppression of the Palestinian people by Israel. It’s classic blowback and communists are just pointing out the obvious here. You can disagree that Hamas is deserving of critical support in the context of the current conflict, but if you ignore the conditions that led to Oct 7th and the fallout since you are taking the wrong lesson away from this issue and someday will be found on the wrong side of history.

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      You also have to recognize that there’s no line between Palestinians and Hamas. I don’t mean that it’s hard to find. I mean there isn’t one.

      72% of Palestinians believe the attack on Israel was “correct”. And presumably some of the remainder are smart enough to not admit to that.

      Hamas still enjoys wide, wide support among Palestinians, for some valid reasons.