Thereās this rising narrative going around that if you ask specifically for a CIS partner, youāre a transphobe. That could be true for some people but itās not fundamentally related to bigotry. Moreover, this narrative, the āif you only want a CIS mate then that is prejudiceā is trampling on one of the most important rights a person can have: the right to choose who they want to get intimate with.
First of all, transmen are in fact men and transwomen are in fact women. Letās get that out of the way. This isnāt a foot in the door for ātrans this really isnāt thatā narratives. What this is about it is the freedom to choose who you want to be intimate with. That right is sancrosanct, it is absolutely inviolable.
And yes, thereās plenty of issues that make transgender dating a special issue. If someone reveals their TG status they can be open to hate crimes and even deadly violence. However all marginalized groups are special in their own way. As a black man I donāt think itās racist if a woman says she doesnāt want to date a black man. I face oppression, too. My class is special in its own way. One group isnāt more special than the other. None of us have the right to force ourselves upon those who donāt want to be intimate with us, even by omitting who we really are.
Really, if you have to deceive or hide who you are in order to date someone, do you really want to date them? I wouldnāt. Thatās not fair to you and youāre denying them their right to choose who they want. What do you think will happen when the person wants a CIS mate and they discover the truth? Theyāre going to get pissed and dump you. Now you have to shame them into staying with you: āIf you loved me for real this wouldnāt bother youāā¦ thatās not going to convince anyone. Theyāre either going to leave, or theyāll resent you forever. Thatās just how it is. You can be mad at that but thatās about as effective as protesting the rising of the sun. Thereās just no way to win once youāve gone down that road.
āI want a CIS mateā is not the same as ātrans women are not womenā - one is a preference, the other is harmful prejudice. On the flip side CIS people who do date trans people shouldnāt be shamed for their choices either. A man should be free to date a trans woman and not catch flak about it. Trans people should be able to be openly trans and not face hate speech or threats to their well-being. This, without any exception whatsoever.
The fundamental fact is when you shame or worse abrogate peopleās right to choose who they want to get intimate with, itās not going to end well for you. All youāre going to get is people who resent being coerced or bullied to date people they donāt want to. And thatās not something the country, or the world, will ever put up with. Except that right now, most people donāt imagine they can be labeled a transphobe just for wanting a CIS mate. And unpopular opinion: that should be nipped in the bud.
I think I thatās a concept that cis straight people donāt get. You donāt come out once. You have a big coming out, once, to friends and family. Then every new person you meet, you decide whether to tell them outright, whether to subtly tell them, or whether you donāt tell them. Each time, youāre considering if youāll meet them again, if it serves a purposes of it feels like hiding, your safety, whether it will affect their opinion of you and so be to your disadvantage etc. Itās tiring.
Is it not more tiring to come out to someone youāre more emotionally invested in, though?
Thereās obviously the safety issues that the OP mentioned, but wouldnāt it be easier to not have to deal with an eventual reveal?
Why invest the time and energy into someone who has that much higher a chance that theyāll deny you when you come out?
Yes, but then you would have to come out to everyone first time.
Hi, hereās your coffee. Thanks, Iām trans.
Hi X, meet my friend Y. Hi Y, Iām gay, my name is X, nice to meet you. Umm, Iām not sure I needed to know that.
What about a work colleague that you canāt avoid but they are new and you donāt know how they will react.
Thatās the point. The big coming out is for people you are emotionally invested in at that point in time. Then you have to make snap decisions and considered decisions for every new person forever.
IMHO a work colleague, etc. has no business knowing if youāre LGBTQ. Only ever a potential dating partner.
If telling a potential dating partner about your LGBTQ status is tiring and awkward then IMHO it is fully our bleeping fault as a society, not the LGBTQās personās fault. Society needs to work hard to correct that and I am 100% here for that. Though to be honest IMO the only time you ever (the word āeverā in this case should be on a Times Square billboard in glowing lights) need to come out as LGBTQ is in a dating situation.
But now everyone should be free to live openly as LGBTQ anyway. They shouldnāt have to ācome outā. I donāt have to come out as cishetero in life. If I were single Iād identify as cishetero just so a LGBTQ person who doesnāt want to date cishetero can swipe right by me on their way to someone they want, and Iām okay with that. Iād also identify as black and 5ā11 so people who donāt want to date black men or men under 6ā2 can swipe by. Fine by me. If LGBTQ canāt identify openly thatās our fault, not theirs.
Why canāt a work colleague be a potential dating partner? Thatās the point the person you were replying to was making. You donāt know who is going to be a common part of your life.
Because the Internet collectively decided that you shouldnāt dip your pen in company ink, so to speak. People are bad at communicating and breakups and some would rather quit their job than work alongside an ex every day, so they wonāt risk dating a co-worker.
So, how do you talk about your life at work. Do you keep quiet about your husband, as a wife is expected? If there is a social function, do you decline to go? Life is messier than that. Sometime work colleagues become friends. Knowing of someone is lgbtqi+ isnāt just about their sexuality, itās about their lived experience.
I completely agree, it is society that is not fully mature about these issues yet, which for someone whoās been dealing with them all their life, for 20, 40, 60 years is tiring. Itās not that your boss is homophobic. Itās that you donāt know and they might be. So you edit yourself. Constantly. Some choose not to but it can be risky, or others canāt as itās more obvious.
Saying it is society at fault, or the other person doesnāt make that an easier experience for lgbtqi people. Certainly, in dating, people should know anything that they may be averse to. That may include someoneās trans status. Does it include their sexuality? Does a bisexual person have to disclose that before intimacy with a person of the opposite sex?
Itās a murky subject. If society was accepting, I donāt think it would be fair to not disclose, but if society was accepting, there would be no need to disclose. Itās a catch 22.
I have a pretty small sample size, but it feels like the next generation doesnāt feel that way. My 13-year-old daughter is queer and so are some of her friends and it doesnāt occur to them most of the time that her peers might judge them for it. We did have to take my daughter out of school for severe bullying- because they were calling her a furry (she committed the sin of wearing spiked collars) and spreading rumors that she was racist. She got nothing for being queer.
Sheās doing an English project right now and she had to pick an event from history and talk about how it impacted today and I suggested Stonewall. She was pretty baffled about the whole thing. She understood conceptually that being queer was so hated and so dangerous in the 1960s, but she really had no idea.
I told her yesterday about how, even when I was in middle school in 1989-1991, there were no kids out of the closet. When I got to high school, there were a handful of very brave kids who were out and they got beaten up a lot. There was one trans girl and that was because she could pass and didnāt let most people know. Same-gendered couples were not allowed at prom. Even kids (and teachers who could get fired for it) who were undeniably queer hid it from everyone. Two people in my friend circle who were so gay they were on fire didnāt admit it until college. Both times, it was a āwell, duhā moment when they came out, but thatās how scared they were to come out.
And, of course, if they did come out, they couldnāt get married if they found someone they loved.
She doesnāt know how bad it all was even when I was a kid and Iām so glad of that. I just hope Trump doesnāt turn it all around.