Guterres vows on Sunday to hold to account 'any U.N. employee involved in acts of terror' but says organization and staff should not be penalized
        • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
          153·
          10 months ago

          Madaris? Just call them schools like a normal person. Anyone seeking English in Gaza would call that a “school”. Kinda weird, why would you choose a different word for this? Flaunting your Arabic, or what?

            • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              101·
              10 months ago

              Most people here speak English as a first language and you’re making the choice to switch to the foreign word here for a reason.

                • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  123·
                  10 months ago

                  I think you are doing it to make it sound more like the Taliban for whom the word “madrasa” (and not “madaris”, but somehow you wanted the plural form) specifically means religious schools that indoctrinate children into political Islam. No one else tends to use the word to mean otherwise. Hamas doesn’t do that kind of stuff. Basically, education in Gaza is on par with the rest of the world. They have had excellent universities, they have had excellent medical centers that had to specialize in very specific types of injuries (thanks Israel!). The UNRWA school offer a normal education like any other in the Middle East (Arabic, English, Math, Science, and so on). There is nothing “madrasa” about it. And yet you chose to use that word.

                  Now, I don’t want to go around accusing, I just can’t help but think, why did this person choose to use a Arabic variety of the word “school” to describe Gazan schools and education? Is it just, *“omg look at me I speak Arabic, yalla bro!” or is it something else?

                • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                  72·
                  10 months ago

                  This both isn’t one and I don’t for a moment believe you’re using it in the name of multiculturalism. You’re a reliable apologist for Israel and want to make “schools” sound like something scary.

            • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
              92·
              10 months ago

              As their first language? You just need to speak it. I think English education is compulsory in schools in Gaza so I’d safely bet almost everyone speaks a medium to advanced level of English.

              • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
                22·
                10 months ago

                Wait really? Unrelated to the wider topic, I’m finding it hard to believe the majority of any Arab nation’s people speak a medium, let alone advanced, level of English.

                • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  6·
                  10 months ago

                  It’s all thanks to the English for colonizing us. Usually, the second language spoken is either English or French, depending on who this country celebrates its independence from.

                  I even was an English teacher in the Middle East at some point lol

                  Yes, English is taught in most Arab countries starting in Grade 1 all the way up to highschool. Almost every upper educational organization will offer students English 101 if they fail a placement test or need extra help.

        • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          139·
          10 months ago

          The proof that they’re actively involved in terrorism is above our pay grade

          How convenient. So we’re just supposed to take it on trust.

          Of course I have seen the Israeli claims and read the UN Watch report where they quote some social media posts. Probably not enough to stop aid to a humanitarian organization but maybe it’s because my “pay grade” is too low to find out the really juicy facts they have which definitely totally exist and aren’t just made up ad hoc justifications for cruelty.

          • DarkGamer@kbin.social
            83·
            10 months ago

            During the 2023 Israel-Hamas war one of the hostages said after having been freed that he had been held in a house of a UNRWA teacher. UNRWA said that it is aware of the claims and is investigating it.[144] Additionally, teachers and other educational staff of UNRWA have been reported praising Hamas’s terrorism on social media, referring to it as an “unforgettable glorious morning” and a “splendid sight.”[145][146][147] The IDF uncovered assault rifles, ammunition, grenades and missiles with varying capacities of Hamas, hidden in and underneath UNRWA institutions.[148][149][150][151]
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNRWA

            This reminds me of the constant denials by haters of Israel regarding the rocket attack on the hospital.

            Lots more evidence of the connection between UNRWA and Hamas in that Wikipedia article.

                • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  115·
                  10 months ago

                  The fact remains that the source for this claim is bro trust me. Nobody should care who I trust. But I’m sure most people can see that “bro trust me” is completely useless. I will believe it when I see evidence

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      55·
      9 months ago

      Like that time there was a Hamas base underneath the hospitalsand the IDF definitely didn’t lie about it?

      If the IDF has such amazing proof why aren’t they just showing it? Nobody trusts these people on their word.