I mean, the PPP folks should also pay back their loans? Although I think when those loans were given out it was stated that they had a possibility of becoming discharged. Still, pay back your loans.
I never understand whataboutism because usually the answer is just the same in both situations. I guess folks are just used to arguing with ideologically inconsistent people?
Sure, but something wild like 65% (and I think thats one of the lower figures) of all PPP money went to things other than what it was supposed to be for. They still forgave something like 75% of all of them. Imagine if half of all students used student loans to buy a Lamborghini, then they forgave more than half of all student borrowers. Wildly different rules for Americas ruling class. No big political or media push around the PPP loan forgiveness either which is strange, almost like the student loan forgiveness uproar is media fabrication to protect the SLABS that rich investors hold. Im sure few would be mad about loan forgiveness if all of the loan went to the employees paychecks during covid instead of the employers bankroll.
Eh, I’m not particularly against loan forgiveness, and I already paid back my own student loans. It’s just, you know, forgiveness.
That being said, it’s criminally easy to get a student loan, and the vast majority of people who got one should have never qualified in the first place. Banks and the government are giving unsecured loans to 18 year olds practically independent of any proven or projected ability to pay them off.
With PPP in particular, the loans were given out with similar levels of recklessness, and so I would argue the forgiveness rate should be the same. I believe it was wrong to forgive those loans in the first place, but now that we’re here it would at least be consistent to forgive current student debt. However, I would like to see it paired with extreme limits on the cost of college to the student so that we can’t end up in another unsecured debt crisis.
I mean, the PPP folks should also pay back their loans? Although I think when those loans were given out it was stated that they had a possibility of becoming discharged. Still, pay back your loans.
I never understand whataboutism because usually the answer is just the same in both situations. I guess folks are just used to arguing with ideologically inconsistent people?
Sure, but something wild like 65% (and I think thats one of the lower figures) of all PPP money went to things other than what it was supposed to be for. They still forgave something like 75% of all of them. Imagine if half of all students used student loans to buy a Lamborghini, then they forgave more than half of all student borrowers. Wildly different rules for Americas ruling class. No big political or media push around the PPP loan forgiveness either which is strange, almost like the student loan forgiveness uproar is media fabrication to protect the SLABS that rich investors hold. Im sure few would be mad about loan forgiveness if all of the loan went to the employees paychecks during covid instead of the employers bankroll.
Eh, I’m not particularly against loan forgiveness, and I already paid back my own student loans. It’s just, you know, forgiveness.
That being said, it’s criminally easy to get a student loan, and the vast majority of people who got one should have never qualified in the first place. Banks and the government are giving unsecured loans to 18 year olds practically independent of any proven or projected ability to pay them off.
With PPP in particular, the loans were given out with similar levels of recklessness, and so I would argue the forgiveness rate should be the same. I believe it was wrong to forgive those loans in the first place, but now that we’re here it would at least be consistent to forgive current student debt. However, I would like to see it paired with extreme limits on the cost of college to the student so that we can’t end up in another unsecured debt crisis.