Seaford, where 340 people voted in the last election, could open the process to 230 corporate entities.
  • redimk@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
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    2 years ago

    This sounds like the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard (so far, who knows what else will they think of).

  • deaf_fish@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Isn’t it possible for one person to create multiple LLCs? Hence being able to vote multiple times?

    • howey@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Sydney Australia allows businesses to vote in local elections. Businesses get 2 votes, humans get 1. So you don’t even need to own multiple companies to have an advantage over the commoners - it’s built right into the system!

      • jarfil@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        At that point… they could just make it official and say “$1 net worth = 1 vote”.

        It’s not like reality is that far from that already, when “1 person = 1 vote” can only cast their vote on a representative financed by someome with large enough net worth, then discard a bunch of “1 person” votes, and end up with “1 representative = 1 vote” who can further be lobbied based on someone’s or some company’s net worth.

  • ArtZuron@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    2 years ago

    In my humble opinion, just as “no taxation without representation” is a thing the gov should abide by; “no representation without taxation” is probably good too. If these company’s want to vote, have them pay 50% of all the money they every make to taxes.

    Actually, not even then. If they want to vote, even if they paid 99% of their profits towards taxes to vote it would be a bad idea.

      • ArtZuron@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I’d say tax them equivalent to all the individuals in the company combined. If there’s a 1000 employees, charge them the same you’d take 1000 people all at once. Then maybe triple it to account for the fact that they amplify the efforts of those people many times over.

    • argv_minus_one@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      The government already doesn’t abide by that principle. Votes cast by people in left-leaning areas count for a small fraction of what votes cast in right-leaning areas count for. Those convicted of a crime may not vote at all. Nor those without citizenship. Yet all of these groups pay taxes.

      If taxation without representation were generally considered revolution-worthy, as it once was, there would have been a revolution decades ago.

    • Panteleimon@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      If an entity is not subject to the legal restrictions of an individual, it should not benefit from the legal rights of an individual.

    • reverendz@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Any entity that cannot be executed or imprisoned does not have to navigate the same fears and dangers of citizen beings.

      Corps as persons is one of the most monstrous ideas ever. Yes, legally it made some things easier, but we see the outcome.

      The whole idea and rules regarding incorporation needs to be revamped from the ground up.

      • hglman@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I would consider it if owners were punished for all crimes committed by the company by any member. And not by fines.

      • ArtZuron@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        2 years ago

        You have no criticism from me on this. Companies either should have no say in politics at all, or a whole shit ton of actual, meaningful penalties for abuse if they do.

  • anji@lemmy.anji.nl
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    2 years ago

    We continue to inch closer to full-blown corporatocracy. We’ve all watched and read enough cyberpunk to see where that leads.

  • root_beer@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    Until corporations can be incarcerated or sentenced to death, they should not be given the right to vote.

  • eldriin@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 years ago

    oh so like how the trade federation has a senate seat in the prequels. totally makes sense guys /s

  • Shhalahr@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    2 years ago

    The vast majority of businesses headquartered in the state, including two-thirds of Fortune 500 companies, don’t have a physical presence there.

    What.

    • Barry Zuckerkorn@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      That’s an error (or a typo). Those companies aren’t “headquartered” there, but they are incorporated there.

      The typical large American public company is incorporated in Delaware, with their stock listed on an exchange in New York, and headquartered wherever they actually do their business: San Francisco or Houston or Chicago or Atlanta whatever. Delaware and New York monopolize their respective segment of the business of the administrative paperwork of being a registered company. As another example, older companies that have physical stock certificates mostly have them locked up in a vault in NYC, with the ownership of the certificates just changing over in a ledger with every stock trade (millions per day) without the actual paper certificates being touched.

      • Shhalahr@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Despite my reaction, I do recall hearing a tax dodge involving hundreds of international companies being “headquartered” in this one tiny building somewhere. I’m pretty certain there’s some legal and financial chicanery where “headquartered” might not be a typo.

  • Queue@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    2 years ago

    What a shock that this is the state where Biden is from. What a shock.