• Contramuffin@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I do that (100+ tabs open at any given time) due to my work (research tends to take up a ton of windows) and because I’m too scatterbrained to focus on a single thing at once, but even then I find that Firefox is really good and arguably better than Chrome. Maybe Chrome has improved since I switched over, but Firefox uses significantly less resources than the Chrome that I remember

    • hare_ware@pawb.social
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      2 years ago

      I have ~800 tabs open in Firefox, no real issues unless I flip through all of them or Tab Groups shuffles them all around. My desktop until recently was over a decade old and the new one is barely any faster.

        • Satiric_Weasel@beehaw.org
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          2 years ago

          … I don’t know if I can even think of a reason I would have thirty tabs open at any given ven time. I’ve never experienced any issues with Firefox, speaking purely from my own personal experience it performs vastly better than Chrome did when I made the switch a couple of years back. To be clear, I can’t conceive of a reason in 2023 where I would feel compelled to open Chrome, or any chromium browser outside of manufactured limitations imposed by a third party. If someone more knowledgeable on the subject has an objection to the above claims I would be happy to hear them; but at this point in time I can’t think of a good reason to use Chrome.

        • hare_ware@pawb.social
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          2 years ago

          Tab Groups+ Tree Style Tabs

          I try to open new windows for every individual thing I do, but sometimes I forgot and the big tab Groups grow.

    • Captain Minnette@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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      2 years ago

      For years Firefox on Windows had this weird random bug for me where audio just would not work at random times. I tried every fix imaginable. I spent hours crawling the internet trying to find a solution. Couldn’t fix it. I’ve used it on Linux but not on Windows for a few years now; I’m going to be doing a fresh install of Windows on my computer soon, so we’ll see if the bug finally disappears then.

      • AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        Windows audio issues are the most impossible shit to diagnose. So many programs fight over supremacy in order to control devices. It takes uninstalling vast swaths of shit to determine what the incongruity is. If you can’t figure it out, link me to the most relevant post you got and I’ll try to hack at it.

        Sorry, friend. Figuring that shit out is hell. I know.

    • AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      You sound like someone that doesn’t open 200+ tabs of furry adult imagery on e621 while playing processor intensive games.

      I mean… I’m obviously not that person either, but it would be cool to have the RAM to support it or the correct web browser if I was that type of person. But I’m not. But having that capability would be nice (not because I need it).

      …I don’t look at furry porn.

    • itchychips@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I’ve had 5k+ tabs open at some points, because I just don’t close any of them, and I often middle click as I want to navigate back to the page I was at. Additionally, a lot of sites break the back button, like collapsing comments re-expanding, or it loads slowly and I wanted to look at it quick. Organization is pretty nice with Tree-Style Tab for Firefox.

      Every few months I purge all of my tabs, but for the most part, I just don’t care when I have 32 GB of RAM.

    • MedicareForSome@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Ever since firefox switched to quantum it’s been great. I would say it outperforms chromium under typical circumstances.

      • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        Well unfortunately it’s about double the CPU and RAM usage for equivalent tabs and extensions to Vivaldi, and V has more baked into it too.

    • IllNess@infosec.pub
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      2 years ago

      People really got to learn how to use Bookmark All Tabs... properly.

      If you’re in the middle of something and you got to switch to something else, organize all the tabs to separate windows, and use Bookmark All Tabs... to Saved Sessions folder or whatever you want to name it. This will allow each window to be saved individually. Save it with a date and at topic name, like “20230625 Bread maker” then close the window.

      I have a fear of crashing Firefox, restore failing, and losing all my tabs. This fixes most of that.

      Using the Bookmark All Tabs... method has help me organize my tabs, makes syncing with devices easier, and has allowed me to keep browsing sessions completely off my mind until I need them again.

        • denemdenem@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I second auto tab discard. I like my thousand tabs and it keeps them unloaded when not used actively.

        • IllNess@infosec.pub
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          2 years ago

          Since before version 64, ~2018. There were a bunch of add-ons adding it back in to the menu since Mozilla decided to get of it from the menu but still keep functionality. Besides that, I have no idea how far back they had it.

  • tarneo@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Librewolf, icecat, qutebrowser, iceraven, surf… are not chromium-based.

    • cowmouse@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Qutebrowser is chromium-based, and barely anyone uses icecat since the modern web heavily relies on JS, iceraven is a Firefox for Android fork, which could maybe have like 50 users and librewolf is unusable for daily usage because of RFP (resist fingerprinting worsens a lot of sites that rely on canvas). (This is just my opinion)

        • cowmouse@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, it’s a lot better if you disable RFP, but it still wouldn’t save my passwords and enabling Firefox Sync isn’t accessible. Again, it’s just my opinion.

          • Owl@mander.xyz
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            2 years ago

            Saving your password in your browser is a really really bad idea, use a password manager instead, like keepassxc (desktop), keepassxd (android).

            • pingu@feddit.de
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              2 years ago

              Agree, but I use Bitwarden. I prefer it because it syncs my passwords from pc with my phone.

            • Gert@lemmy.nz
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              2 years ago

              Very true !! For me Enpass On Linux pop-os and on my Pixel running graphene-os Perfect Enpass basically big database with more then just passwords Contacts, notes, files …😊

  • Tim Morgan@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    I really wish firefox had HDR support. That’s the only reason I haven’t fully switched

    • monobot@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Really, I feel like in Groundhog Day and click every time hopping something will be different.

      • ⁧⁧⁧@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        Parts of it are. Vivaldi wants to retain its brand and doesn’t want people making forks and potentially tarnishing its reputation. And given how unpopular it is, they can’t really afford that to happen. I personally have no issues with Vivaldi wanting to keep things that way and I don’t mind it not being completely FOSS. Given how absolutely amazing the browser is and how customizable and feature-packed it is, it’s absolutely irresistible for me not to use it.

        Here’s a blog post from Vivaldi about it not being completely FOSS and their reasoning

        They’ve also got a great privacy policy so I’m not concerned with privacy either.

        Fun fact: Vivaldi is the go to browser for car makers such as Lamborghini, Mercedes, Audi and other car manufacturers https://vivaldi.com/android/automotive/

        • Owl@mander.xyz
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          2 years ago

          I know about why they don’t want to make it fully open source and I love how feature packed it is but I don’t want to use non-free software as my web browser.

    • pingu@feddit.de
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      2 years ago

      Isn’t Vivaldi a bit overkill/bloated? It has so many utilities integrated (mail, calendar, …)

      • Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net
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        2 years ago

        @pingu, I’ve been using it for 7 years and it has never appeared overloaded. There are some of the functions that I do not use and because of that I have hidden, however there are many others that come in very handy. But this is handled differently for each user, depending on how they use the browser. You can use extensions from the Chrome Store, but most are redundant in Vivaldi and not needed. You can give it the simple look of an old IE or of an Eurofighter panel and everything in between.

        • pingu@feddit.de
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          2 years ago

          Oh ok, because when I tried it I was a bit overwhelmed about all the features that it has. And with every feature enabled at the beginning, the browser was a bit lagging.

    • Engywuck@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      YSK that donations to Mozilla don’t go to FF developement (which is done by Mozilla Corp.), but are used by Mozilla Foundation for… other things:

      https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/faq/

      How will my donation be used? At Mozilla, our mission is to keep the Internet healthy, open, and accessible for all. To learn how your donation is put to use, click here.

      You can find more details about Mozilla’s expenditures and governance here.

      Don’t Mozilla products, like Firefox, earn income? Firefox is maintained by the Mozilla Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation. While Firefox does produce revenue — chiefly through search partnerships — this earned income is largely reinvested back into the Corporation. The Mozilla Foundation’s education and advocacy efforts, which span several continents and reach millions of people, are supported by philanthropic donations.

      It is funny to me how the first link doesn’t actually tell you how you money is used, but just points to Mozilla Foundation home page.

      In short, if you donate expecting that your money helps Firefox, you’re doing it wrong.

    • fellow_nerd@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Do you know of any vi extensions or configs I can look at for Nyxt. The OOB experience isn’t great, but I see the potential. EDIT: Also tree tabs if possible

        • fellow_nerd@lemmy.ml
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          2 years ago

          Thanks. I’m not so much interested in tree tabs for switching around, but to bulk close tabs based on origin. Basically to bulk delete tabs based on how they were created. But it seems flexible enough.

  • blotz@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    What’s with all these comments saying Firefox is slow!? I’ve never noticed FF slowing down? I also can’t find anything online particularly damning (they all are pretty close in scores. No massive performance numbers for one or the other). I thought this was just a common misconception. Can anyone explain?

    • Geth@vlemmy.net
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      2 years ago

      People complain about Firefox performance and site compatibility all the time and I have no idea what they are talking about. I use both it and other browsers all the time and Firefox for me is the better one.

    • Bishop Whitewind@witches.live
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      2 years ago

      @blotz @siriusmart I have like 32 gb of high speed ram and my browser would still run slow the last time I used firefox. This was a very very very very long time ago and I have like 400 tabs open but that’s why I have a computer with 32gb of ram to browse the web…

      • burgundymyr@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        I’ve actually started using Firefox more because Chrome has been causing me problems. Recently downloading more than 3 files from Google takeout at a time broke Chrome. With Firefox I hit 20 simultaneous files with no slowdown. Chrome actually hung until my downloads finished. Made it impossible to work at all while I downloads files. Same issue in incognito. Firefox was great.

        I recently built a PC and included 32GB of RAM specifically so I can have a hundred tabs open without any lag, never had a issue with Firefox.

    • smartwater0897@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      It’s not slow, people are slow in their heads. Chrome may feel a bit faster but it’s not even what matters when picking a web browser. Will it protect your privacy online? Yes or no.

    • Amir @lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Also browsing the web with the uBlock Origin installed, will signifiy improve the speed. Meanwhile protect you from various bad stuff, adds being nonexistent. :)

      Check this app & also tick all the boxes within its Settings.

    • therealmdubbs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 years ago

      I used to to think the android mobile app was slow. It’s gotten allot better though. Now that it supports uBlock I think it’s the best browser for Android.

    • SuperiorOne@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Firefox is slower on synthetic benchmarks compared to Chromium ones but I’ve never seen a noticeable difference while surfing sites.

    • zabadoh@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I think there were some bad releases many many years ago, but right now Firefox works great. But unfortunately that reputation lingers, and people don’t like changing their browsers often.

    • BuxtonWater@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 years ago

      It is a common misconception, they perform functionally identical across multiple PC’s and updates. People are just slow to change their minds.

      • halcyon@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Can you show me data showing that Firefox with dark theme, does a first load on a website just as fast as Chrome or edge? Same data point for with video buffer in frame? Pretty sure its noticeably slower in both scenarios with a dark theme.

        • BuxtonWater@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 years ago

          I run a dark theme by default, first load of google.com in chrome is functionally indentical in performance as I said. Statistically there is a difference, probably only 0.1 - 0.25s max faster load in Chrome but it’s not reliable at all in the few tests I did quick (t’s 4am), so something that does not effect function itself, only form, makes me still correct in what I said originally.

        • ttmx@lemmy.ml
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          2 years ago

          Yes, but not super directly. You increase the market share of chromium based browsers, meaning websites will focus on supporting those browsers, which will make people switch to them to get websites working better. This is all very large scale, it’s complicated.