• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I suggested for Israel suggests 80%-62% of Israel’s genocidal campaign are civilian deaths. I can see how you’d get the other interpretation.

    70% of Palestinians killed are owmen and children.

    62% civilian deaths for israel means that you’re saying 100% of Palestinian men are Hamas and 8% of Palestinian women and children are Hamas. Either I’m still not understanding your claim or it’s a very stupid claim.

    Explained is a cute word for ‘dismissed because targeting civilians hurts the hero-worship for Hamas you’re cultivating’

    The IDF has already admitted there’s no babies in ovens, no pregnant women with bellies cut open, and many news outlets are throwing the rape stories out of the window because of credibility issues.

    You want Hamas to be some evil monster org. They did some bad stuff sure but you’re comparing them to actual genocidal maniacs like the Nazis or israel.

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      10 months ago

      By the newest math, Netanyahu now says 75% of Hamas has been eliminated (citation needed of course because the IDF lies through their teeth at every chance). If we take the generous assumption of Hamas being made up of 30,000 fighters, how many civilians killed is Netanyahu claiming are Hamas?

      And I think the most hilarious thing with Israel is that they claim to both being hugely successful but also that “lots more needs to be done”. If the end goal is making Gaza unlivable (we are almost there!), then this kind of rhetoric will buy them enough time to finish the job.

      Oh yeah wait, I forgot! Israel claims everyone is Hamas… Everyone who works a government job is working for (K)HAMAS, every garbage man is a (K)HAMAS operative because they work for a (K)HAMAS-run municipality, every volunteer at the library is in a (K)HAMAS LIBRARY, hence okay to kill. They even blew up the Gaza archive building, maybe the archives were (K)HAMAS? Or maybe they are trying to eliminate these people and any means of them surviving 🙃

      Even on ToI, they had this ridiculous news report about how “KHAMAS POLICE RETURNS TO NORTHERN GAZA AND CREATE MAKESHIFT CENTERS TO DISTRIBUTE PAY”

      Bro, those are the actual fucking Police! They claim Hamas is both in the tunnels and not in the tunnels simultaneously so they can cover more surface area for murder.

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        10 months ago

        The way that most Western people implicate everyone with the slightest relation to Hamas of being soldiers, is the same (or more extreme) than implicating every IDF reservist shot on Oct7 was an IDF soldier instead of a non-combatant.

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      10 months ago

      62% civilian deaths for israel means that you’re saying 100% of Palestinian men are Hamas and 8% of Palestinian women and children are Hamas. Either I’m still not understanding your claim or it’s a very stupid claim.

      I’m just citing the range of third party sources. Although I don’t think female participation in hostilities is ridiculous considering Hamas has used women in previous operations, 100% of Palestinian men obviously is. Take the 80% if you prefer - it’s still not that far off from the 68% of Hamas.

      The IDF has already admitted there’s no babies in ovens, no pregnant women with bellies cut open,

      I don’t see where I claimed that? I claimed Hamas has intentionally targeted and murdered civilians on ethnic grounds, which is incontrovertible.

      and many news outlets are throwing the rape stories out of the window because of credibility issues.

      Believe all women (unless they’re Israeli), huh?

      You want Hamas to be some evil monster org. They did some bad stuff sure but you’re comparing them to actual genocidal maniacs like the Nazis or israel.

      “They did some bad stuff”

      Ah, yes, just a little light genocide, a bit of a massacre based on the ethnicity of the victims, please don’t worry about it.