If a topic is in any way controversial, there’s a good chance it will get removed, when I’m sure the same content wouldn’t get removed on Reddit. I know it depends on subs and instances but I mean more generally, and for example AskLemmy vs AskReddit. Reddit seems to have more leeway for things, whereas Lemmy doesn’t and seems harder on censorship. Not only that but they remove things even when they’re not controversial such as when I just asked a question about savory fruit and sweet vegetables that got removed. They also give no reason at all for why things get removed nor any notice of its removal until you realise later. It happens so frequently that I wonder if this post will get removed too for some reason.

  • Paragone@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    5 months ago

    This question gets-at an underlying problem in the whole world’s misconception of expression-rights:

    “ABSOLUTE & ARBITRARY FREE Speech” vs VALID Speech having Rights & Protection…

    Do serial-murderers hold that their serial-murdering is their “Right”?

    Obviously they do:

    that’s why they’re committing serial-murdering.


    WHEN one frames it as “ARBITRARY FREE Speech Right”,

    THEN the cutoff is by definition arbitrary, & violation-of-FREE, which the no-context cult holds “justifies” not limiting in any way any expression/action.

    Narcissism/machiavellianism, that.


    However, that framing always has been, is, & always will be, incorrect.


    Do Ebola, Rabies, Cancer, & Parasites have the “Right” to exercise their free-expression within your body??

    IF one is a FREE Speech ABSOLUTIST,

    THEN one’s having, & exercising, of an immune-system, …

    is violating the FREE Speech of all pathogens, within one’s body:

    which is 2-facedness.


    EXACTLY as censorship of pathogens within one’s body is required for your health, so-to is censorship of pathogens-against-our-country’s-health required within our country.

    That includes pathogens pushing child-molestation, rape, serial-murder, treason, disinformation, smear-campaigns, prejudice’s protection, etc.


    Health & disease are mutually-exclusive conditions, and forcing out disease requires both objectivity-in-one’s-action AND it requires ruthless integrity in one’s enforcing.

    VALID Speech MUST have rights.

    Whistleblowers, actual-journalism, etc, MUST enforce accountability.

    Pathogenicity, however, cannot be permitted to control the process of a country, or that country’s viability is corrupted, & its time rightfully short.

    Corrupt-entities have no “entitlement” to viability, in this Universe.


    As for Reddit vs Lemmy-instances,

    Reddit sides with cancer-intent having rights to free-speech, and systematically removes posts & comments which either threaten it with accountability, OR which push accountability that it won’t tolerate

    ( some r/Superstonk posts removed, because they threatened money’s special-interest-group with accountability, e.g. ).

    Each Lemmy instance has its own rules AND each Lemmy community has its own rules, too.

    So, in Lemmy, it’s more ad-hoc.


    But nobody is trying to discover & hold-to the objectively most-viable standards, because political-conforming is preferred, and that will be either near-fatal for humankind or it will be fatal for humankind, as this “armageddon” century unfolds:

    ClimatePunctuation is still accelerating.

    The curve of climate-change-speed looks like a Bell curve:

    climate-change-speed is small, at the beginning, becomes big, then tones down again, as the planet reaches its equilibrium, century/centuries later.

    We’re in the climbing/accelerating portion of that curve.

    Consensus “Science” has been ignoring that.

    It has been ignoring the last 2M years of data identifying that the equilibrium-temperature for our current atmosphere is a MINIMUM of +5C ( and that is ignoring the artificially-boosted methane, too, which puts it between +8C to +9C )

    ( Evolution of global temperature over the past two million years https://www.nature.com/articles/nature19798

    • 280ppm CO2 * 9th-root-of-2^1 == planetary +1C == 302.5ppm CO2
    • 280ppm CO2 * 9th-root-of-2^5 == planetary +5C == 411.5ppm CO2
    • 280ppm CO2 * 9th-root-of-2^8 == planetary +8C == 518.5ppm CO2
    • 280ppm CO2 * 9th-root-of-2^9 == planetary +9C == 560ppm CO2

    We’re currently in the 417…421ppm range of CO2, alone.

    Factoring in the excess 1.3-1.4ppm methane, only, NOT including ANY of the other greenhouse-gasses we’re producing, brings it up to 8-9C planetary-heating equilibrium, using methane’s 20y CO2 equivalent factor of 82.5x.

    526…534.5ppm CO2-equivalent, with the methane, only, factored-in. )


    Both arbitrary-free-speech-absolutism AND consensus-conforming-only are delusional/nonviable.

    Objectivity is the correct standard for deciding what pathogen-action is, and objectivity isn’t found within our feelings, it is found by our squelching our political-motivations & studying actuality, accepting evidence’s speech as being more valid than ours.


    So, the answer to your question is “culture”.

    That is why what gets removed is systematically-different in Lemmy than in Reddit.

    But the question is a tiny portion of the survival-importance question of will humankind understand the difference between arbitrary-free-expression vs Valid expression, and will humankind understand it in-time for human unconscious to begin committing viable life-committing?

    The answer to that question, at this time, looks like …

    "not likely:

    too totally different in values".

    _ /\ _

    • Lafari@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      In my opinion, lots of posts get removed here which would fall under reasonable (and even important) / valid free speech. So I do think the mods are abusing their censorship ability.