Many of the people that think being gay is a choice are in fact bisexual. So for them it’s a choice on whether or not to act on it. They assume everyone else works the same way.
I choose to be monogamous with my partner. When I was single there was not a single conscious thought rattling around the horn brain.
I would think that everyone choosing their sexuality implies that everyone essentially has the ability to ‘be’ any sexuality.
From a logical perspective that implication is true, choosing your sexuality implies you have a choice. However, I disagree with the premise that there is a choice to begin with.
I do not choose to be straight, I just am. I’m not gay, and no amount of choosing will change that. I’m a guy, and I can choose to look for a boyfriend, but it won’t change the fact that I’m attracted to women. Now maybe I discover that I’m actually attracted to both men and women, but I would argue that discovering is different from choosing. Choosing would mean that I can choose to not be attracted to a gender, which I can’t. I can only choose whether or not I act on it.
However, I disagree with the premise that there is a choice to begin with.
Yes, me too. I’m just expanding on the consequence of thinking sexuality is a choice.
Obviously they’re bisexual, monosexuals are a myth.
You’re bi or you’re ace, and everyone is just one “being trapped on a deserted island with a hottie not of their usual preference” from recognizing it.
That’s right, monosexuals, now YOU’RE being erased, deal with it.
“FIGHT NARROW MINDEDNESS WITH DIFFERENT NARROW MINDEDNESS!”
…or something?
Narrow minded?
I’m not the one that won’t fuck hot people.
That’s, uh. Certainly a thing you said. Cool.
I think it was an attempt at satire
As a bi person, it definitely was. It’s a common joke bi people tell each other to make fun of bi erasure, that never lands outside of bisexual circles and yet we keep trying.
With the caveats that (a) I strongly disagree with their tone/framing and (b) I’m aro/ace with absolutely no qualifications to stand behind on the matter, I honestly actually kinda agree with that idea
The way I see it, the existence of trans/nonbinary and gender non-conforming people create a bit of a gray area that I don’t think the contemporary definitions of straight/gay are equipped to handle
If you’re a man, you’re straight if you’re attracted to women. But what about a trans woman? Does it make a difference if she’s had bottom surgery? What about an enby who presents fem? What about a femboy who presents more fem than even some cis women you’ve seen, but still fully identifies as male? What about the opposite, a cis woman who presents strongly masc? At what point does still/not being attracted go from straight to bi? (Again, I’ve never experienced attraction to anyone regardless of anything, maybe there are actually very obvious answers to these questions, i genuinely don’t know. If you think you do know, please share! I’d love to learn more and gain a better perspective on this)
Assuming I’m right the answers to the above questions aren’t very clear, I think it’s realistic to say everyone is at least a little bi. But, it’s not realistic to say everyone should identify as bi. Really anything greater than, say, a 90:10% ratio is enough to still be considered straight/gay for all intents and purposes, at most maybe with a little asterisk. (Although tbh I think we could just do away with gay/straight entirely and just do relative attraction to masculine-/feminine-presentation, from neither to either, but that’s probably less realistic in practice)
The answers to your questions are actually more of a depends on the person thing. If you’re a man attracted to trans women, that’s still heterosexual, because a trans woman is just a woman. It doesn’t matter what her genitals are because genital preference is a different thing than gender preference.
However, beyond that, it gets blurrier. I’ve seen many, many varying opinions from enbies on how sexuality applies to them, but I can’t comment not being one. It’s possible for a straight person to be attracted to say, a femboy, but become repulsed upon realizing they are a man, however, there’s an increasing number of people who aren’t repulsed by this fact at all, caring only that they look feminine. In fact, it would seem the way we define sexuality does drive peoples preferences to a larger degree than we may expect. There were societies (I’m half pulling this out if my ass, but I vaguely remember seeing a video on this) where your sexual orientation wasn’t whether you were into men or women, but whether you were a top or bottom, and in such societies homosexual relationship were dramatically more common.
In fact, it’s been purposed nowadays that to reflect our culture it may be worth redefining sexuality not as attraction to one gender or the other, but to masculinity, femininity, androgyny, or any combination.
Personally, I’m a bigger fan of keeping the current labels and adding the new labels on top. I think truly straight and truly gay people genuinely exist, who weren’t just a result of our culture shoving them into boxes, but I do think it’s rarer than it appears.i’m a big supporter of redefining sexuality as being attracted to masc/fem/andro people. I’m 95% attracted to masc/slightly andro presenting people who could Dom me. Without much care for their genitals. I usually just say I’m bi because I feel like more people get that
It doesn’t matter what her genitals are because genital preference is a different thing than gender preference.<
I would argue that the first use cases for sexuality were explicitly about genital preference though. Social identity discussion has advanced since then, but most peoples idea of sexuality ultimately aligns with which genitals they are most comfortable engaging in sexual acts with
Idk I’m ace and I thoroughly enjoyed it
The attempt is a bi person?
I hope you have the courage to come out of the closet some day.
Moment I learn something new about myself, you’ll be the first to know.
It would have to be one sexy, woman-looking man, believe me.
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You’re going to have a lot of fun on your journey of self exploration when the tactical team drops you on Femboy Island.
Hmm. I really am not into cock. Unsure how that would play out. Maybe if they groomed me very skillfully.
mood
It’s a spectrum.
I’m open-minded but have zero attraction to the same gender. If we only need one counter argument against what you say to prove you wrong, there it is.
So repressed, so sad.
You are basically doing the same thing as the people who say being gay is a choice: Claiming that you know other peoples sexual and romantic preferences better than they do, themselves.
They’re just rage baiting and doing it poorly.
Best to just ignore them, like their parents did.
The “it’s a choice” move is just to avoid having to discuss exactly why they believe gay people should not only be punished in this world, but for all eternity. Always move the conversation in the direction whenever they use it.
Denying your sexuality is a choice, but the sexuality itself is not.
I thought these emotions were related to Thalasin™
Where my thrantiveness at?
Why does “Loric” look like Mark Zuckerberg?
Zuckerberg has always been known to be very loric. Doesn’t it say so on his page?
This is loric slander!
Did she chose to like women?
You misunderstand. Obviously, everyone feels homosexual attraction, “being” gay is choosing to act on that attraction. That’s what they mean when they say “being gay is a choice”.
Just like that Saudi religious leader that says men must keep full beards so he doesn’t feel tempted by the beauty of a shaved man
Beards are gods burkas
sounds like he wants to fuck a twink
Off topic, but his wife doesn’t wear hijab.
i mean, i get it, arabic men have the capacity to be weirdly uniquely smokey with a shorter shave.
talk about fertile crescent
Just checking that the “obviously” is the sarcastic part, right? Because not everyone is bisexual.
Yes, that comment was satire.
