Was recovering an old virtual machine onto a new box and was shocked to see 9,999, I presume thats an upper limit in the UI. Dune (2021) for those curious

Now wheres my crossbones flag?

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    Sir, are you the Pirate Bay? I feel like you’re single-handedly keeping a tracker alive.

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    this must be something I’m too usenet to understand

    kidding of course, well done and thank you for your service

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      Actually if you would be so kind, what is the rundown of Usenet? I’ve searched a bit but been busy to really sit down on it, should I consider it being just a side thing (for now)?

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        Usenet is here to stay, it is similar as if you pay for vip in order to be able to leech without seeding. This makes automated pirating legal in some countries (like mine) since only doing direct downloads from your usenet provider. The usenet provider have servers which exchange bits of data with IDs similar like we do with torrenting. As a user, you now go to a indexer, who gives you a map, with which bits of data you can construct your file. So you then download each bit directly and put everything together and are rewarded with a normal file. Until now I have found every release which is also in predb using the private indexers I have.

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            Beside a Usenet provider, you also need to sign up with an “indexer”.

            To compare a Usenet download with a download on the regular internet:

            • Usenet = your internet provider (which enables you to connect to stuff)
            • Indexer = search engine (helps you find the stuff)

            NZBGeek is a good indexer.

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          Thank you very much, until I start getting thin on content from public trackers I think I’ll stick to torrents, especially if the bar of entry is lower, I’m in a good situation to seed so I might as well bring that to others

          I am curious over the legality, is it in a way that the provider is storing the whole file just obfuscated? My (rather poor) understanding is that torrents work because the file pieces are distributed

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            In some countries, like Switzerland for example, it is legal to download, but illegal to upload content that is copyright protected. So if you want pirate legally, you ether only leech public torrents, buy vip leech pass on private tracker or simply turn to usenet.

            I think it is that way, so that a consumer getting something from someone (free or paid) can not get in trouble for accepting, since how should the consumer know it is a pirated copy (I think the law was written prior digital age). But the one offering can get in trouble, since that person is more likely to know that it is a pirated copy. There is even an exception, which allows you to share your pirated copy with close friends. You can not even get in trouble if you rent stuff, copy it and give the original back after.

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              Laws written before the digital age regulating digital age things are the best.

              Feels like a good part of the reason for Usenet to begin, I would like to try but I feel some bit obliged to provide for as long as I’m able. Thanks for your rundown, internationally differing laws are confusing

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                I am 70% sure this is correct, i remember vaguely: The swiss law was written in 2019 iirc. The idea is that there is a high tax on drives/usb sticks/dvds and all such devices. This gets distributed to copyrightholders in some way. And uploading is illegal.

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          Any Usenet providers and indexers you’d recommend? I tried it a few months ago but couldn’t quite wrap my head around how to use it. (I’m technically literate, but Usenet was completely foreign to me until a few months ago.)

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            I fear that it is not allowed here, but there are cats, dogs and slugs which are very good as well as one with a name similar to matrix. Then there are the ones with NZB in the name and some are just drunken.

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        Don’t bother. Just sign up for a Debrid service. It’s torrents but direct downloads, which means no needing to worry about seeding. It replaces your torrent client entirely.

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    Nice!

    My highest isn’t nearly that large - Dark souls remastered at 1143 ratio.

    Kudos ☠️☠️☠️

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    I can’t get over 0.00 most of the time because no one’s leeching 😭

    Idk how I’m even supposed to get a good ratio

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      Download a popular movie and keep your computer on for a while 🤷‍♂️

      Although, seeding stuff that isn’t popular is also important. I don’t know what you’re seeding but if no one is leeching maybe there aren’t a whole lot of other people seeding either. When someone does leech, they might be very happy that you’re there keeping that one torrent alive.

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        I was suddenly nostalgic for MythBusters again, and in my acquisition I found a couple seasons that have pretty low seeders. Will gladly be a forever seeder even if one person a year leaches

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        I have a Raspberry Pi with the *arr stuff and Jellyfin that’s seeding 24/7. I tried looking for popular stuff on the private trackers I’m on but they always have so many seeders in comparison to leechers that I don’t know if it would actually help or worsen my ratio.

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        You don’t even have to download the whole thing. Anything downloaded will be shared with other downloaders.

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      I would imagine, and namely the reason I raise the sails again, content thats being migrated across different subscriptions will become a real hot token item

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      I have one tracker I am twice as long active with versus another one and I almst catched up the uploaded data with less torrents active. Sometimes I wonder if I am just not the primary target for that tracker or I just don’t like the popular stuff.

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        I already have Sonarr/Radarr. Can I use Autobrr exclusively for downloading freeleech stuff?

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          Yes you can, it can either monitor RSS feeds exclusively, or also, for supported trackers, place a bot on their announce channel and instantly know when a new release is announced.

          With that information it can do multiple things, feed it to *arrs which then decide if they want it, send it straight to your torrent client, with various filters, etc.

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      I build ratio on private trackers by getting as much freeleech stuff as I can, even though I might not be into it. Timing is key also, I’ll snatch anything I think will blow up. If you get in early you can get lots of upload. This worked great to get my initial ratio built up on what.cd and redacted.

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      I don’t sweat it. My connection is crap anyway. I’d rather somebody have a drive full of rare treasure that barely gets asked for than be one of a thousand seeding the latest Marvel rubbish.

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      A private tracker I use actually bases their ratios off the time you seed something for rather than the amount you seed. I use a seedbox, which means people are able to leech from me pretty much 100% of the time. Most of the stuff I’ve seeded so far is freeleech. Those three factors combined have given me about +10.0 on my ratio over the course of maybe a week. (I just recently joined it.)

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        That’s pretty interesting. I wish more trackers did it like this.

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      Yessir, and frankly I’m caring a lot more for the torrents that are barely breathing on public trackers, its made me a little sad seeing how inaccessible some content can tend to get, but to be fair I haven’t sailed the deep end with private trackers or anything yet

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        Unfortunately with public trackers you’re mostly helping leechers and debrid users who don’t contribute back anything at all

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          And lets be honest, a lot of us were once in the boat of at least not being able to seed back. With the content I seed I see it more as a preservation service…

          Family and friends requesting even couple years old shows that just arent available in this region or what be it like come on, its the digital age, I can message someone halfway around the world but I can’t watch some movie because someone wants the most nickel and dime. /rant

          I don’t expect any of them to know what bittorrent is, if it brings them joy when there may be no other option, that is what this is for afterall

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          1. download new torrents with the freeleech tag
          2. seed the freeleech torrents for a little while
          3. download an ebook or something that isn’t freeleech

          yes quite. this happens to me every time I join a new tracker.

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            The screenshot is showing the ratio on a single torrent, not a tracker. The only time you’ll see that is usually if you are the person that submitted the torrent.

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    When I was able to seed relentlessly, I aimed for 3.0. Typically, popular things got into the tens or twenties, while rare stuff would get lucky to cross the 1.0 threshold.

    Thieves and beggars, never shall we die and all that.

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      When I downloaded The Last Of Us it would shoot to 4-5 and get stuck there. Meanwhile, I downloaded Madagascar on a random Monday and a week or so later that thing is at 36.0.

      It’s totally random.

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    What’s your upload amount? Ratio isn’t vs the total size of the torrent, so this can happen if you remove a readd a torrent to the client for a file that’s already in the hard drive. Say you download 1kb of a 1gb file, but then upload 10mb you can get some insane ratios.

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      Most unfortunately overall statistics aren’t exported, the VM had been sitting active on a PC for a while before I turned it off for a few months and wiped it recently

      I can say those top ratios were movies I had first acquired, and never had set a seed limit so I’m certain I’ve been seeding the entire file

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    That’s almost certainly a partial cross seed, but if it isn’t, that’s one hell of an accomplishment.