• NateNate60@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    48
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    I think it is very common knowledge that the biggest downside of democracy is the general stupidity of most of the voting population.

    • tb_@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      Not inherently stupid, mind you. Un(der)educated and lied to by those they should be able to trust.

    • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      8 months ago

      I guess we should let the smart people choose what’s right for them, and not give them a vote……

          • NateNate60@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            The system is described in Plato’s Republic. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia. This idea pre-dates the concept of “left” and “right”.

            I made a slight mistake in my previous comment. Plato was the one who came up with it, but his work is in the form of a Socratic dialogue.

              • NateNate60@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                6
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                8 months ago

                Ancient Greek philosophers’ views on slavery are complex and can’t be boiled down to a reply that would retain all the nuance yet would not be annoyingly long to read. Nonetheless, their views on slavery do not invalidate their views on politics.

                  • NateNate60@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    9
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    8 months ago

                    Are you unable to grasp that someone can explain an opinion without holding said opinion? Are you unable to grasp that I can describe a political system without advocating for it? That I can show the history behind it without endorsing it?

                    Are you unable to grasp that you can agree with someone on one topic without agreeing with them on everything? Are you unable to grasp that people are more than one-dimensional points on a spectrum and that there can be nuance and intricacies in their way of thinking, some of which is agreeable, some of which is not? That no idea or person can be described merely as a binary choice of “good” or “bad”?

                    Or have you no grasp at all of the rules of logic and the art of rhetoric, leaving you with nothing but strawmen and ad hominem left?