My Nextcloud has always been sluggish — navigating and interacting isn’t snappy/responsive, changing between apps is very slow, loading tasks is horrible, etc. I’m curious what the experience is like for other people. I’d also be curious to know how you have your Nextcloud set up (install method, server hardware, any other relevent special configs, etc.). Mine is essentially just a default install of Nextcloud Snap.
Edit (2024-03-03T09:00Z): I should clarify that I am specifically talking about the web interface and not general file sync capabilites. Specifically, I notice the sluggishness the most when interacting with the calendar, and tasks.
The out of the box experience of the containerized nextcloud is actually really bad. Had it running bare metal with apache and it was way faster.
But have you tried the official AIO docker compose file? Basically copy the redis stuff from there and you are good to go.
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Not in this context. Bare metal means all packages and services installed and running directly on the host, not through docker/lxc/vms
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Have you read my comment? It’s about where the packages and services are installed.
In this case, they’re installed in the container, not on the host
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It’s just what it means in this specific context.
They’re not running directly on the host, with directly meaning directly.
If you go by definition, I agree with you, but the definition is not always the thing to go off of.
Is docker virtualized or otherwise emulating something? It’s just a way to package things, like an installer? Then it’s bare metal.
I had to look this up too, I thought docker containers were virtualized.
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Words evolve, and sometimes, they gain new meanings. “Bare metal” is not a scientific terms, and so it can be bent depending on the context.
You can either accept that or not, it doesn’t change the fact that that’s what it now can mean.
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No. Your packages and services could be on a network share on the other side of the world, but where they are run is what matters here. Processes are always loaded into, and run from main memory.
“Running on bare metal” refers to whether the CPU the process is being run on is emulated/virtualized (ex. via Intel VT-x) or not.
A VM uses virtualization to run an OS, and the processes are running within that OS, thus neither is running on bare metal. But the purpose of containers is to run them wherever your host OS is running. So if your host is on bare metal, then the container is too. You are not emulating or virtualizing any hardware.
Here’s an article explaining the difference in more detail if needed.
More specifically, the container is run on bare metal if the host is running on bare metal. You are correct in this thread, not sure why you’re being downvoted. I guess people don’t know what virtualization technology is or when it is used.
If the nextcloud container is slow, it’s for reasons other than virtualization.
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Wait what? I’m saying what you said is correct. Am I the one who’s confused here?
Edit: oh maybe you meant that’s the excuse people give for being wrong? lol
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