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as a web app, it can be installed on any device that has a browser. Dev doesn’t also need to publish his work in app/play stores which may require extra payment
The portability is awesome. I switched to wefwef and had it going on all my devices in minutes. Web apps don’t have to suck. Apps also have more privacy implications than a PWA.
The portability is awesome. I switched to wefwef and had it going on all my devices in minutes. Web apps don’t have to suck. Apps also have more privacy implications than a PWA.
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I think from the point of view of speed/ease of development, the webapp makes more sense for now. Once it’s more stable, perhaps a native app is worth trying for performance reasons.
And since it doesn’t have to be published in any app stores, it can be updated much more quickly and frequently.
Why does it take so long to push updates on AppStores?
I think they maybe have to be approved first so that people aren’t updating their apps with something malicious
So it is not as safe as downloading an app from the AppStore right?
No. The browser (which is the runtime that pwas use) is already a very limited environment with little to access to the system - and if the app wants to access something potentially sensitive, then the browser asks for permission. Even then it doesn’t have access to nearly anything that a native app can access.
That’s a good question. I’m not entirely sure of the answer to that. I suppose in a way it could be less secure because the dev could just decide to one day make the wefwef.app url into a malicious link. But at the same time, I don’t think a browser is granted as many permissions by default.
Using the Google Play Store as an example, there are still incredibly sketchy/suspicious apps on there even though they are approved by Google.
generally Google play is rather fast, but Apple can be insanely slow sometimes. At my work we’ve had up to 6 working days to get approval of very minor updates. That’s the reason why technologies like react native with over the air updates have gotten as prominent as it has.
As someone who leads an app development team I’ve started liking pwas more and more the last couple of years. Especially for apps that doesn’t do more complex stuff than making api calls and rendering the result to the screen in the form of text.
No kidding I think it had like 4 updates yesterday 🤣
This. I pressed update on my Android, iPhone, and Desktop and it only took like half a second. This PWA is scary good.
I thought pwa were supposed to suck but I honestly haven’t even looked at any other apps because wefef works so well
The first time I found out PWA don’t suck is when I tried justchilltv last month. Another dope one
The first time I found out PWA don’t suck is when I tried justchilltv last month. Another dope one
Just looked that up and now I’m debating cancelling all of my streaming subscriptions.
I don’t know what that is but anything that requires me to log into an account before telling me absolutely anything about the service is an instant no from me.
I thinks it’s fair considering is pirating, many services get shutdown for showing everything without login. It let them know you are in their discord server
This is what blows my mind. PWAs have always been sort of ok. But wefwef is just <chef’s kiss.gif>
that’s something i like with react native and over the air updates. In the app i ship at my job, when its only the javascript bundle that’s updated we can actually update without the user ever knowing, they just get a slightly longer load time on that startup of the app, making rather easy ensuring that no users are running out of date and broken code.
Good to know. I haven’t decided whether I want to learn RN, Flutter, or ionic. Lemaing towards RN.
I think for now that there are more jobs in RN, but a lot of people are passionate about flutter and we might as a shift in the market in the next comings year.
I would do freelancing and building my own apps so where the market goes makes me no difference. What’s really important to me is which is the better language to learn. And I’ve seen arguments for both sides.
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I am a programmin’ folk, and I was even considering making a Lemmy reader for my own amusement, but wefwef is so good that I’m not going to bother. I wish I had time to learn React and the rest so I could contribute myself, but my brain is already full of frameworks and I’m afraid if I try to learn a new one, it will push out one that I actually need for my job.
I’m not saying that the PWA is horrible, but I think a native app would be better too. Really, the only issue I have with it is the refresh rate. For some reason, the display randomly switches to 60hz, especially when sliding to go to the previous page.
Using the developer options to see the current refresh rate does not represent this, but you can clearly see it. I feel that a native app would be able to force 120hz throughout the app.
The only reason I say this is because, when first tried to install the PWA from Kiwi Browser which was pretty smooth but switched to 60hz here and there. I thought this was because of Kiwi Browser so installed the PWA from Chrome. When I did that, it was fully in 120hz only, completely unusable, so I went back to the Kiwi PWA
Edit: the refresh rate is fine while in Chrome browser, it’s only in the installed PWA that the refresh rate goes to shit. Anyone who has a 120hz display knows that even going back to 60hz for a second is jarring.
shit i never even noticed it wasn’t 120hz, and it’s weird that only the PWA suffers and the app in chrome runs fine
i don’t think i can unsee it…
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Yes and no, there are a great deal of good reasons that some OS features are only available to binary deployments, one such being that the code is sent through manual and automated testing by the platform holders. Ultimately some things can’t be made available to all apps running in WebKit or similar as the implementation isn’t scrutinised.
As an obsolete ass Android phone user, thanks for web app. Looking good. Please add lemm.ee
Ok I found the “other” server option now! Cool.
It’s promising, but right now it’s a buggy disaster. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. There’s a lot of features coming and hopefully it’s stabilized to compare with other apps that are already out- but right now, it’s not even close to ready.
I haven’t seen any bugs at all so I’d hardly call it a buggy disaster.
I have, so I would.
What bugs have you seen?
Bugs when posting, bugs when replying, bugs when fetching messages, bugs when loading communities, bugs when responding to messages…. (I’m having to use Memmy to respond to you as I can’t load messages in Wefwef reliably)
It’s got a long way to go, but definitely shows a lot of promise.
That’s just from Lemmy.world. I recommend using a smaller instance, it’s night and day.
The other apps don’t encounter as many bugs and as frequently, so that’s inherently not true.
I have three accounts on different lemmy instances. wefwef is only having issues with lemmy.world
From what I’ve been told lemmy.world has been rate limiting wefwef.
Wish I could use it without needing VPN. I’m in Finland.Edit: it’s working for me now. It’s strange because at the same time it wasn’t working from my home and mobile connections it was working fine via airvpn in US.
I’m using it without vpn from Finland. Why would you need vpn?
It’s strange. Yesterday I was consistently getting connection refused from the site. There are some instances which are blocking the EU as far as I can tell (gdpr fear maybe?) and I thought this was more of the same. Thanks for the information!
I agree, I would likely use it if it was an actual app, sadly due to restrictions web apps have on my device I can’t use it xD
I think it works perfectly as it is now except for the Safari bug where swiping back a page makes it refresh the page and force you back to the top of it. I guess there’s nothing the wefwef devs can do about it but damn it’s annoying.
Have you tried re-adding it to your home screen?
Comments collapsing is not nice and snappy. Compare it to jerboa. These kinds of animations really make the experience feel slow.
It’s very snappy for me on iOS, perhaps you have to re-“install”.
I never experience what you’re describing. You installed the web app to your Home Screen as instructed and you’re not just using it inside Safari, right?
Yeah I did that. But I’ve always had this issue even when using Safari by itself so I know it’s not a problem with wefwef. Safari just doesn’t seem to cache previous pages correctly for me.
Interesting, are you running on older hardware?
No. I got a iPhone 13 Pro.
Even more strange then. I’m using the same hardware and haven’t experienced that in either wefwef or general browsing in Safari.
Dude, I didn’t know PWAs could be so good. I’m running the OG Google Pixel and the performance is excellent!
100%
I actually disagree. I love that it’s a lightweight web app.
I’m amazed how well it works. Didn’t know a PWA could be this good. The only thing that I really miss is being able to save posts to check later, because I hide read posts.
I’m in wefwef, and my UI has a save icon.
It didn’t do anything hahaha. But the latest updates added the save feature!
As a web app I can (at least on iOS) rename it to something other than “wefwef”.
I’ve added it to my Home Screen, how do you rename it? (Not that I will) just wondering! Thank you for any help!
I’m not sure if you can after the fact, but when you’re adding initially you’re given the option.
Ah ok, got it. Thank you for replying quickly and letting me know! I was just curious.
woofwoof?
“It’s so good it should be something else” - can’t argue with that thought process
It’s so good it makes a lot of apps really disappointing.
I see a lot of duplicate comments. Is it a bug with wefwef?
I think it’s related to servers giving you an error message when posting a comment due to load, so you hit post again. Afterwards it turns out you have two comments because the first attempt actually worked
It’s so good it makes a lot of apps really disappointing.
