I really wish more online personalities would move to Mastodon, right now it’s hard to justify when most of what I use Twitter for is to follow different online creators and such. And just none of them are moving over yet. It looks like Bluesky is where a lot of them are looking. It’s also decentralized, but honestly I’m not a big fan of jumping on another Jack Dorsey project. I don’t like ActivityPub as a tech myself and would be more interested in a holepunch kind of approach myself, but honestly it’s the most mature decentralized tech there is right now and it seems like the world is moving that way. Just wish the world would move quicker!
It’s also decentralized, but honestly I’m not a big fan of jumping on another Jack Dorsey project
Jack Dorsey is the reason why some of these perennially online personalities moved to Bluesky. The AT protocol maybe decentralized but there’s no unofficial instances of it yet (afaik).
I see plenty of people on BlueSky without
.bluesky.socialin their @. Doesn’t mean they’re on another instance?I’m on both, and both vibes are pretty great. I prefer Mastodon simply because the app is superbly made, tiny file size, no trackers etc. Bluesky is a buggy mess right now. Also, 3rd party apps on Mastodon are amazing.
Word. Mastodon is fabulous. There’s not very many people, but I haven’t encountered many assholes. And does it ever run smooth!
It’s the best made app imo, with the best performance and design. If I had to rank them, I would rank Mastodon > Twitter > Threads > Bluesky.
I wouldn’t consider another VC money backed app/service anymore no matter how good the tech might be. I hope we all remember the hard lessons from the fiascos from the recent months.
This brings up my main questions with mastodon and lemmy… who is going to pay the server costs at scale?
It would be nice if those mechanisms began sooner than later.
I’m tossing $10 to both a month. Many of us are doing that to avoid being the product.
It will need to be by donation and/or sponsorship, systems for which are currently in place for most of the larger instances.
My hope is to see academia, web hosts, and non-profits involved at some point too. I think the software is just too immature at this early stage to expect much in this regard. Once more advanced safeguards are in place (content filters, admin tools, etc.), it may become more viable from a liability perspective.
That’s why Mastodon is my choice.
That’s honestly the biggest potential upside with Meta’s Threads in my opinion: better chance to grab more of the big online personalities (e.g. it’s on the record that they’ve been reaching out to major celebrities) and (at least for the foreseeable future) Meta seems invested in full-featured Fediverse interoperability including account migration, etc.
First time I gave Mastadon a shot now. It’s nice.
Special thanks to Kbin to introduce me into decentralized social media.
Despite mastadon being more active, it seems less lively. I guess it’s because I preferred Reddit over Twitter in the first place.
Lemmy is also pretry similar to old.reddit. No recommendation or anything so its an easy migration.
I have only used Twitter and Mastodon sporadically, but its definitely more of a pain to discover communities since its more user oriented
Longer form content is always more fun for me. Structured topics and conversations are way better to exchange ideas and shitposts.
I did open a Mastodon account. But don’t use it much 😶
I made one at the same time I joined Lemmy but Mastodon seems like a ghost town
It seems like Mastodon and Twitter operates on different principles or I am missing something.
Follow some hashtags. Makes it active very quickly and lets you find accounts to follow.
I’m so confused by comments like this. I use Mastodon every day and it seems pretty active to me.
You probably found a bunch of people with niche (if any) interests and/or friends from Twitter or other social media who are active enough for your feed to be populated. A lot of people use twitter to follow news, celebrities, journalists and shitposting accounts with large following as there’s lots of discussions under tweets with massive reach. Most people don’t interact themselves at all but just scroll. Mastodon doesn’t have these big accounts as of now so there’s not much activity for the majority of regular twitter users.
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Not just worse, it’s also extremely dependent on instance choice when you first try to build your circle of follows. Having to follow people to find people to follow to find further people to follow makes that first step the most important, and Mastodon’s vision of an “Everything” feed is a disorganized mess. Intentionally, for anti-viral reasons.
The reason that’s an actual huge issue is that instance choice is also, easily, the highest barrier of entry to a new user. People are CONFUSED by it. Which means that if someone who would be in earnest willing to try Mastodon and give it time, may still end up coming out with a bad impression if they made a mistake with the prior step and couldn’t figure the right second and third step to overcome the hurdle.
Meanwhile, here on lemmy, our choice of instance is largely irrelevant. The only change we get on our “All” feeds is just a couple top posts, so we may not have the same starting position, but we do have something in the same ballpark.
This whole conversation is and was tiresome to have, honestly. I did see people try to solve it, but even there they’d run their onboarding environments built by mastodon users counter to what newcomers may want. For example, I saw this web wizard that would quiz me on my region and languange and also slur-censoring preferences… when all of that stuff is completely irrelevant to me - I look up entertainment communities by topics FIRST, not social philosophy, and specially not by regional peers, because fuck my regional peers.
Anyways, point was… Everyone I know who actually stuck to Mastodon… Have mastodon.social accounts. Exclusively. But here, people are already spread between .ml, sh.itjust.works and .world.
Not just worse, it’s also extremely dependent on instance choice when you first try to build your circle of follows. Having to follow people to find people to follow to find further people to follow makes that first step the most important, and Mastodon’s vision of an “Everything” feed is a disorganized mess. Intentionally, for anti-viral reasons.
The reason that’s an actual huge issue is that instance choice is also, easily, the highest barrier of entry to a new user. People are CONFUSED by it. Which means that if someone who would be in earnest willing to try Mastodon and give it time, may still end up coming out with a bad impression if they made a mistake with the prior step and couldn’t figure the right second and third step to overcome the hurdle.
Meanwhile, here on lemmy, our choice of instance is largely irrelevant. The only change we get on our “All” feeds is just a couple top posts, so we may not have the same starting position, but we do have something in the same ballpark.
This whole conversation is and was tiresome to have, honestly. I did see people try to solve it, but even there they’d run their onboarding environments built by mastodon users counter to what newcomers may want. For example, I saw this web wizard that would quiz me on my region and languange and also slur-censoring preferences… when all of that stuff is completely irrelevant to me - I look up entertainment communities by topics FIRST, not social philosophy, and specially not by regional peers, because fuck my regional peers.
Anyways, point was… Everyone I know who actually stuck to Mastodon… Have mastodon.social accounts. Exclusively. But here, people are already spread between .ml, sh.itjust.works and .world.
Yeah, I hate the explore page on Mastodon. At least on my instance I guess. Nothing interesting there, just the same few accounts posting political takes. Or shitting on reddit/Twitter. Gets very old very quick. It’s usable when you follow hashtags but it’s really not there yet.
Care to share some tips for someone that’s new to Mastodon? I’ve made an account but I’ve got nobody to follow on there and trying to discover new people seems fruitless because of how different the search on Mastodon is.
Start following a few hashtags. That will give you a solid starting point.
Hadn’t thought about that. Thanks for the suggestion!
I tried a lot, but Toot! is the best of the bunch.
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I noticed it looked slightly different, but I haven’t noticed much difference
Also, remember there are a bunch of nice 3rd party options for Android, like: Tusky (personal favorite), Fedilab, Megalodon, & Tooot
I’ve been trying Tusky and Fedilab. They are better experiences for sure.
Just tried the new official app and it is much better than what it was before but the 3rd party offerings are still ahead as of now.
Just my 2 cents.
Wait Tusky is not the official app? I always assumed it was
It’s not! But it’s my favourite too.
I’ve heard that the official app was initially thrown together at some point around the time Mastodon first blew up due to Twitter…uh, blowing up, in a different sense. Basically, “it would really help onboarding if people had an obvious choice of official app to use”. At least, that’s what I’ve heard. Never verified this myself.
Tusky is definitely decent though.
It’s not! The official app is relatively new, and Tusky has more features, or did the last time I compared.
And don’t sleep on Phanpy, despite being a PWA it really is excellent.
Thanks for Phanpy. I like Pinafore and Fedilab, Tooot was nice - but I think I will stick with Phanpy. It is such a pretty webapp.
I use it. So far I like it.
Maybe I should give Mastodon another try… I couldn’t really find anyone to follow.
To get an immediate curated feed, I recommend following @lisamelton@mastodon.social. She boosts all sorts of interesting stuff from others. It’s a great way to find other accounts you might want to follow.
Another good account to follow is @FediFollows@social.growyourown.services (https://social.growyourown.services/@FediFollows) They highlight interesting accounts to follow.
#FollowFriday is also a nice thing.
I am here since the blackout using Jerboa, but I get an error when I click on it, doesn’t it work in the App? I tried the instance website and put it in the search bar, but it doesn’t work either and unfortunately I don’t find any tutorials how to follow mastodon users from lemmy, do you know how? Another thing I don’t quite understand: with my Lemmy account I can use other Fediverse services like mastodon. And my understanding is that kbin is not the same as lemmy, but another service such as mastodon? So why does kbin come up in my all feed but nothing from other Fediverse services?
That was my struggle too… I open it every once in a while, but it’s the same people posting similar things.
Maybe I should give it another look. I was frustrated that I couldn’t view federated content, so I switched to a webapp.
Man there’s literally only one thing stopping me from using mastodon and that’s likes.
I know marketing, and shit, and likes sometimes skew things, but without likes any toot is given the same weight, no matter if it’s a good or bad toot. There’s no way for me to see through the chaos that emerges from this.
I know there are reasons not to do this, but I damn well know I’m not the only one, and I’m sure it would make it more appealing for a lot of ppl unfamiliar with mastodon. You could even make it optional so ppl can turn it off and there would be no harm done.
I think there are likes, it’s just a star icon instead.
Was about to say, it’s the boost function
def likes on mastadon now
Nothing can beat Fedilab. Trunks is a close second
I’ll have to give it another try - Megalodon is my current favourite
I don’t think I’ll ever make a Mastodon account, but I do like the rss feature so had been relying on that to get updates on certain projects. Now just need some Twitter accounts that haven’t moved over to do the same. Some have websites, but don’t even update it and relied solely on twitter to push update.
Twitter is mainly for self promotion than for users, so this seems pretty disruptive for them than it is for people like me.
I’ve found that my lemmy.world account can be followed by my mastodon.social account. I wonder if it is possible to log in to a mastodon client with it?
No. Lemmy and Mastodon federate using the ActivityPub protocol, but that’s not good enough for making mobile apps or other clients. They each have their own API for their apps and an app made for one federated platform won’t be able to log into another platform’s server/instance.
All your interaction with the Fediverse is done through your instance.
