so I’d think that if a place offer euthanasia id probably be more likely to visit
I’d feel the same, sometime
Every. Damn. Day.
he may be a moron, but he has a point
he makes a valid argument, just not the one he was trying to make.
yeah, the simple answer would be that you don’t need a doctorate to tattoo, and I would assume most tattoo shops can’t exactly support an anesthesiologist financially.
but what about a eunaesthetist?
All you really need is good, solid brick.
Add that it would be against the Hippocratic oath for a doctor to practice medicine as part of a business that is intentionally wounding you to put ink under your skin.
Nah, cosmetic surgeons exist, and they aren’t inherently violating professional ethics. Tattooing would be the same kind of elective procedure as breast implants or facelifts.
Also, the Hippocratic oath isn’t what people think it is, nor is it even done on a wide basis at this point as an actual oath.
Anastasia isn’t good for you, the thing that can knock you out can kill you or still be bad for you in general.
While it’s not everyone’s favourite, I don’t think listening to Anastasia is all that harmful.
Honestly I saw that movie as a kid and I never understood how 20th Century Fox wasn’t a big player in the animated film industry. I guess it’s technically a disney movie, now?
How would we listen to her, she’s been dead years ago after the Russian revolt.
Why do you say they are a moron?
It’s a valid question.
Edit: ok, English is hard i confused the words as well. Asking why tattoo studios don’t offer anesthesia is a valid question, euthanasia would be assisted suicide.
If you are in a room and you don’t know who the moron is…
Just kidding, cheers mate :)
Who am I to judge, a beautiful tattoo is to die for ;)
Because you can fuckin die. Anesthesia is a risk every time you go under. It’s a scary business.
Yeah, and the risk of death with euthanasia is even higher!
Imagine that!
It’s not just a risk, it’s guaranteed.
They didn’t even notice that euthanasia was not the right word for the situation, I doubt they actually meant anesthesia that completely puts one under. That would be risky. But most dentists just use local anesthesia and maybe nitrous oxide as a sedative, and these are much less risky. Not sure I’d trust a tattoo artist with access to a steady supply of nitrous at work, definite Steve Martin from Little Shop of Horrors vibes.
And the pain is a bonus for some. No seriously, they get something like runner’s high and some people enjoy that.
I recently heard of a guy with a tatoo fetish. doesnt even really care about the tatoo itself, but the paon, the girl (of course…) doing it etc
Meh. I have sleeves. It’s an adrenaline rush for a bit. But it’s not always great.
Yeah, there’s a really good reason anesthesiology pays a shitload of money.
That’s true for general anesthesia, but what about local anesthesia?
This reminds me of being a child and wondering why tf everyone was so concerned with the “youth in Asia.”
Oh this was me too.
OK Emily Latella
Okay beyond the interesting choice of words. If anyone is wondering why anesthesia is not available at tattoo palaces is that it would be illegal. Sometimes there are laws that expressly prohibit this, but often it is just illegal through default as an anesthesiologist would be required and I don’t think there are many moonlighting as tattoo artists.
They have and use lidocaine. For any real anesthesia they would need a Dr and that would get expensive fast.
You could get away with an anesthetist like dentist offices use. But yes, expensive.
Lidocaine is still a prescription drug so would still need a doctor to administer it.
You can get topical creams at a pharmacy or drug store without prescription.
Yes but you can’t give it to people. I know this seems really weird but you can go buy it and use it for yourself, but that is it. As soon as you are giving to someone else it is being prescribed. So you go to a tattoo parlor and they offered you OTC lidocaine it would be prescribing. Call it stupid but that is the way it is.
Then my artist is a criminal 😅
It burns when they rub it into the tattoo and your arm feels like it is on fire, and then the drug hits your nerves and life is slightly better than 10 seconds ago
Oops 😂
I get what you mean.
Just like my classmate many years ago: my phone rang during a class, and afterwards she advised me to put it in vibrator mode
if it vibrates intentionally, it is, in fact, a “vibrator”
work in the right factory, and you may get to experience “erectors” too!
She was just telling you about her hobbies mate
Me: I went to medical school
Them: what area did you specialize in?
Me: Tatoology. I’m a board certified tatoologist and offer pain free body art.
There are actually medical tattoo technicians (used in radiology to place targeting tattoos) it helps the oncology team line up the equipment perfectly every time.
And also reconstruction tattoo artists that are considered part of the allied healthcare industry, they work with reconstructive plastics and cosmetic surgeons. They can tattoo over hypopigmented scar tissue, they can create photorealistic nipples on people who had radical mastectomies, they can help blend the surrounding skin to seamlessly match a prosthesis through what is essentially permanent contouring.
It requires specialist training it’s not something any old tattoo artist could do. Scarred, burned and surgically damaged skin does not respond the same to ink and the skill level required is immense. But the quality of life and pshyc-social benefit to a patients health is worth it for those that get these tattoos.
I remember reading this really interesting story about a regular tattoo guy who kind through accident got into doing tattooed nipples. Now he gets before pictures and spends time doing pre-tattoo practice sketches. He spends a lot of time talking the ladies through the whole thing on the phone. In part because a lot of the ladies are like 50/60 and have never had a tattoo in their lives.
It was pretty fascinating and the amount of life satisfaction the guy got from it was amazing. He still did regular tattoo work but he really found the reconstructive work was a whole other level.
Oh fuck me…I read over it briefly and totally got his point but didn’t realize he used euthanasia instead of anesthesia and was confused why there was no explanation in the comments or why this is even funny.
So, pardon me if this sounds stupid, but his general idea with the anesthesia doesn’t sound that stupid right, right? Oh god this is a stupid question isn’t it…
Ignoring safety concerns with administering and looking after the patient - the cost increase of getting a tattoo would be astronomical.
Ignoring safety concerns with administering and looking after the patient. the cost increase of getting a tattoo would be astronomical.
of couse it has to be done by someone who is qualified for this and if someone is willing to pay for it why not, people pay a lot mopney for dumb stuff since forever. I mean sure if there is no need for it then there is no market for it but I’m really curious if someone actually tried it before in his tatoo shop.
Anesthesiologist salaries range from $300k+ to 500k+ according to a quick Google search. Doing the same for tattoo artists say the very very top earners can be in the $300k+ range.
I went into this comment prepared to say that you’re underestimating how much more expensive it would be, but looking at that I guess there’s no real reason you shouldn’t be able to shell out 2-10x the money (I have no idea how much the equipment and consumables cost) to get a really really nice tattoo without feeling the pain.
Because anesthesia has a non-trivial chance of immediately killing you every time it’s used. It’s why major surgeries are always a last resort, and why minor surgeries use topical anesthesics instead of systemic (completely different drugs). It would be medical malpractice to use anesthesia for something that does not absolutely require it. No anesthesiologist would risk their liscense for it.
so why did I get anestasised during colonoscopy? sounds like a bad idea
no clue what they used, I was asleep in seconds, it was an infusion and I awoke pretty quickly. I would have been able to walk home within 15-30 minutes
They clearly been local anaesthesia. Some other comments have made good arguments for why it’s potentially a good idea but also why it doesn’t happen generally.
Anesthesia has a lot of issues as other people mentioned but I imagine a topical pain killer wouldn’t be the worst thing ever at a tattoo shop. That being said, many people that get tattoos low-key enjoy the pain… Or maybe that’s just me.
Me too buddy
Do they accept credit cards?
Well I hope he never visits one of those countries that offer euthanasia cause he might die thinking he was gonna get an anesthetic.
“This sure is a lot of paperwork, but it’ll be worth it once I have a sweet tribal tattoo.”
They offer relief
from agony of your woes:
the youth in Asia.…there are dentists who offer anesthesia as a fun little option if you think you can’t handle the pain?
…excuse me.
…WHAT.
Not as a fun little option, at least not here. If you’re too scared of the dentist to the point of panic attacks (anxiety can override rationality) then you can be put under for the procedure to reduce emotional trauma and even to prevent hurting yourself.
Oh, that makes much more sense.
I had to go for it because I’m very resistant to painkillers, so I would have felt every bit of my dental work. Which would not have been enjoyable for anyone lol
Hey this is like the debate over capital punishment in schools
If you are looking for slow euthanasia, just go to all the back alley tattoo places and pick up HIV, hepatitis, etc.
“Scared of dentists? Try dying!”
My sister got a tattoo recently and apparently they do offer some kind of pain mediation. They offered her novacaine to numb the site of the tat.
Dentists should learn from tattoo artists and offer pain meditation too!
Too much Novacaine etc can make the skin go all mushy which makes it more difficult to tattoo and heal, which increases the chances of it looking crap. Instead, people with money and aversion to pain get put under general euthanasia while a team of artists all tattoo at the same time. The only real downside is that general anaesthesia is always dangerous so it’s probably too big a risk just to avoid a few hours of pain and discomfort
get put under general euthanasia
“You won’t feel a thing, considering you’ll be dead.”