Genuine question: what happens to someone born in the US to non citizens? If they were born in the states, would they not have the citizenship of their parents country? At that point would they just have no citizenship anywhere?

I’m sure if it came down to it their parents home country might grant their child citizenship, but it probably won’t be guaranteed…

I thought he said he was draining the swamp?

They can’t and won’t learn. They’d rather have a fake controllable populist on the right than a progressive on the left they can’t control. The DNC has been serving nothing but corporate neocons since Clinton. They don’t fuckin learn. They need to be thoroughly ripped apart before things will get better.

Democrats and moderates are blaming leftists because they believe that because of their stances on Gaza and other issues that leftists didn’t vote for them. They are unable to reflect on why they actually lost and don’t realize the thousand plus issues with their own party so they are working overtime to try and shift the blame. They ran the most unappealing campaign since Clinton and independents didn’t show up or actively voted against her.

Every part of it needs to be destroyed and replaced. Trump took over and completely transformed Republicans.

I didn’t say that, I voted. I’ve just heard this same argument so many times through the years and it’s not working.

I tried. Our politics are a joke and have been my entire fucking life. We’re all just trying to survive and do the right thing. We’ve been fucked by both sides, the side that wanted to win won. That’s all there is to it. The rational Americans were abandoned.

Are you trying to tell me they won’t learn their lesson this time?

We’ve got to do it now. Before midterms and before 28. If we wait around for the DNC and Democrats to do the right thing and learn their lessons then we’ll be sorely disappointed.

Every. Single. Election. People. Blame. Voters. And. Nothing. Changes. Maybe it’s the lame ass corporate candidates that need to change. I voted Kamala, but it was fucking obvious as shit she didn’t stand a chance.

Yup. They fucked us royally and I’m sort of waiting to see if people organize around this. The DNC needs to go. They’ve known about Trump since 16 and this is the campaign they run? They’re trying to elect him at this point, I don’t know what else to think.

Democrats: here’s a rock and two nickels

Republicans: here’s everything you’ve ever wanted and all the libertarian shit you used to jerk off to.

Liberals after the election: how did we lose??

That’s been the case since '16. Things need to change at the DNC because maga sure as shit aren’t going away.

The DNC silences anyone that isn’t a neocon establishment pick. They don’t let the people have a voice and just listen to their donors. They need to have real open primaries where they do not obstruct the outcome. Once they can find their maverick like Republicans found theirs maybe they’ll start winning decisively again.

Democrats (DNC and donors) don’t want to win with a progressive. They’d rather have Trump. They’ll never embrace anyone like Bernie.

The only possible explanation for this is that doesn’t suck is maybe they wanted to talk starlink, but that could’ve happened in a different setting without Trump.

No I think it’s time to look inwards now. The only people to blame is ourselves and the trust we put into the DNC. They have broken our trust over and over again. It’s fucking time to rip the bandaid off and just focus on organizing and rooting out the people and issues that led to this failure in leadership. I don’t think I’m being dramatic in saying: they have completely failed us and robbed us of a secure future. I’m young, and this supreme court and all the shit to come is going to haunt me until the day I die. I’m fucking livid.

Maga has done the hard work and organized. We aren’t entitled to rule with no leadership.

Turnout didn’t change for Trump. In fact it was less than 2020. What happened was a repeat of 2016, this is the third time they put up an establishment candidate, when it’s been glaringly obvious Americans on the left and right are tired of that. The DNC is going to eat a lot of the blame this time–if not the majority, there are hardly any excuses this time.

They’d rather have Trump than a non establishment candidate they can’t control.

Stoked, lol. Relieved is more like it. Biden and Kamala were a fucking embarrassment for Democrats. The DNC annointed a geriatric and a wildly unpopular VP for 2020. It’s a fucking miracle they won.

So when we burning it down? It’d be better to start now, not 3 years from now.

Nothing is changing. The voters won’t change. The DNC must be held accountable now.