JDPONDON [none/use name]

yeah it really is insane, marxists are saying “yo morals aside society is just way way less efficient being run this way, it is in the self interests of the vast majority of society aside from those who literally own factories to do away with money/state/class” and our opponents are crying themselves to sleep when an orphan has a hot meal and safe place to sleep at night

idk how to be sensitive wording this so im gonna put it in a spoiler warning:

if this guy was an actual socialist and believes what he says (i.e. US has used this book for 50+ years to continue its brutal empire), how has he not killed himself yet? like seriously, i get he’s a trot so he probably thinks some psychotic shit like “helping the US to bring down the worst perversion of socialism ever, the USSR, was actually a very very good thing” .

but like this is maybe understandable if you havent seen all the horrific suffering since the collapse of the USSR, including possible irreversible climate change induced extinction, let alone all of the other horrible shit the USA has done. to head off “great man theory accusations”, ill just say that even someone else taking 5 year to study and explain this could have potentially led to a diffreent outcome to the cold war. it also ultimately shouldnt allieviate the guilt for you yourself donig this instead of someone else 10 years down the line. we dont really give the same kind of grace to US veterans: you were a willing foot soldier of the US empire, so you should feel horrific about yourself, and if you were to end your own life, we would laugh at you. instead, it more so seems like hudson is bragging about it to me, which is very very very gross. you should be mortified over this shit man, wtf are you doing

judging by recent polls i bet milei’s approval rating goes up somehow, he’s been openly stripping the copper out of the walls and as argentinians continue to be put into poverty and yet they actually seem to approve this lol.

maybe they view this as divine retribution for their country’s sins lol (/s)

thank you comrade

thats what they say to an average amerikkkan, but if the feds are trying to press a suspected commie and then use an argument like this it makes me think the feds arent including socialism: utopian and scientific in their curriculum which makes me sad that we still cant beat them despite that

Facts don’t matter, and reason is useless against Western chauvinism, because for those who grew up with a supremacist world view for 20 generations it is a matter of pure emotion.

kind of, it is true that “facts” are not nearly as effective as they are portrayed to be, however claiming that it is a matter of “pure emotion” is liberalism, see https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/ and https://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/ etc.

out of curiosity, why are you on midwest? the admin is still ultimately an anticommunist despite their uh “tankie” opinions (iirc the whole incident where .world and the other blue maga i.e. fascist instances ganged up on him and called him an ebil tankie?)

like seriously, midwest has de-federated from barely anyone beides actual fascists (also feddit.nl, wtf happened there? hexbear has never even defeded from .nl and the admins have been pretty quick to defederate in the lat couple of years)

sorry if you were unaware of any of this, just your instance and dbzero’s defed of grad left me expecting a relatively soon defederation of hexbear and yet it still has yet to happen

He wrote that poor people should not be poor

i thought the feds were supposed to have a better understanding of marxism than this smh my head this who we lost to???

my dream world is full state repression on social media. the (socialist ofc) state should require you to link an irl ID to your accounts on every website, and if you post nazi shit or a comment as bad faith as the ones destiny fans make you should be put to death

(this idea is honestly mostly inspired by destiny fans, i hate every single one of those “people” so fucking much it is insane, i’d rather be cursed to deal with chuds revving their engines while im peacefully walking on a sidewalk* every day for the rest of my life than have to read one more comment thats the absolute worst dogshit ever written since mein kampf)

surely this will cause these people to abandon the democratic party and begin the path to radicalization right guys

Yeah, in sure they do. But we don’t have to make it easy for them.

why? unless psl is somehow hiding some crazy numbers (especially in the military) and are preparing to try stoke the flames during the next period of large civil unrest in the next few years i dont really understand the advantage of feds knowing “somewhere between 5 and 6 thousand members” and psl putting out online that they have 5k plus members.

No. That sounds like a mess.

how so? it’s a forum with inherently limited membership and tied to your real identity, moderation burden should be pretty light and provides a unified platform for discussing local tactics and discussing ideas before the party line is decided upon.

maybe i misunderstood about public membership, i was using “have” to very loosely as in you are encouraged to do it if you dont think you will be under threat from local fascist elements. this is a vaguely remembered thing so maybe i am misremembering or something like that. regardless, see my most recent edit, unless this is like top secret information i find it hard to believe the feds dont have a decent estimate on membership.

as a side note, does PSL have an internal online forum like the DSA? asking cause i saw someone bring that up in that slop thread about r/dsa and it made me curious, seems like a relatively decent idea to exchange ideas between distant branches to me

edit: reread my first comment not even sure why i said “required”

i dont understand this, if most members have to be public about their membership how would the feds not have at least a rough idea of how many are in the party? this is ignoring the extremely high probability of assests they’ve manged to slip inside the PSL who have enough access to inner party knowledge to aquire an even more accurate estimation (not trying to say PSL is co-opted by the feds btw, but i assume they’ve probably had got one decently highly ranked asset in each notable org in the US).

do you know the reasoning behind PSL not publicly sharing numbers? from my understanding most of your members are required to be open about being communists, PSL cant be trying to hide the number from the state right???