The far right also supports Israel because that means they can send Jews there. It fits their worldview of every race/ethnicity having their own land. There is no paradox. Besides, Jews and Muslims are killing each other over there. This is why all these far-right politicians are so very Zionist.

Exactly, it’s the whole “black lives matter” vs “all lives matter” thing all over again.

None of them attacked innocent civilians in Cambodia: Kissinger bombed innocent civilians in Cambodia. And then after it became known that Pol Pot was a genocidal lunatic, the west started supporting Pol Pot AFTER it became known what he did until his death, while the communists attacked and deposed Pol Pot.

It’s always the same: the west murders indiscriminately people in the global south and then act all innocent when this radicalizes the survivors.

Edit: you also mention Vietnam. What Kissinger did there was also monstrous.

You’ve already made up in your mind that the Palestinians are genicidal, in order to justify their colonization, oppression and murder by the Israelis. You do this for your own peace of mind. You need to do that because if you didn’t, you would see it for what it is, a people fighting for its liberation. You require the Palestinians were all perfect pacifists, going along with their own ethic cleansing and genocide.

Kissinger bombed hundreds of thousands of innocent Vietnamese, Cambodian and Laotian civilians, and they gave him a fucking peace prize because he finally stopped.

He is responsible for Pol Pot’s rise to power so he’s indirectly to blame for Pol Pot’s regime. You can’t bomb a country to hell and not be responsible for the aftermath.

Post an example of Palestinian people calling for genocide instead of a some unrelated dude.

I know why people keep quoting this unrelated dud:, it’s to make you think that “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” is a call to genocide. It’s not, it’s a call for freedom. Both quotes just use the word “sea”, but are otherwise not related.

Then post that instead

Okay, but then address the point that the guy was Egyptian and not Palestinian?

I mean, there is a big difference between the crimes you commit and the ones you don’t commit.

If we’re going to judge countries based off what politicians of OTHER countries say, we’ll be here all night. Fuck Canada for the shit Trump says, etc.

Two nitpicks:

• that was said by Abdul Rahman Hassan Azzam, who is Egyptian, not Palestinian
• there’s a huge difference between a threatened expulsion of some colonizers (words) and actual genocide of the indigenous population (actions)

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According to cbs, crime is down significantly since 2010, from 1.2 million registered crimes in 2010 to 806k crimes in 2022. Of course that doesn’t give the whole picture. CBS also reported 47% less murder/killings compared to 20 years ago.

Maybe the migrants are more visible now than they were, maybe it’s more concentrated in certain parts of the country. It’s no secret that the government is really mismanaging the situation.

But that wasn’t the point of my initial remark: punching down, blaming the people that have the least power, that’s doesn’t make sense and isn’t fair.

I’m afraid of this becoming a slippery slope. Suffrage (both active and passive) are very important rights that should never be infringed.

You can see the slippery slope in action in America: mass incarceration is being used as a way to take away voting rights from black people. Any loop hole will always be used by the people in power to remain in power.

It’s not hard to predict that the right would classify “socialism” as “lying about the economy” and try to take suffrage away from socialists, or whatever they consider socialists that day.

What kind of safeguards are you thinking of? And doesn’t that go against the right to make yourself electable?

Always easy punching down…

Depends on what compromises he needs to make in order to form a government. The 3rd and 4th biggest parties are also right wing, so I don’t think he needs to make many, unfortunately.

First by the Ottoman Empire, then by the British empire, now by Israel

You haven’t been to the USA or to any European country before the 80s to see that Christianity can be just as political and just as conservative.

If you give the situation a little more context, you can see the west’s hands in this as well, similar to Palestine and other former colonies. After being brutally exploited by western powers, there were many secular and moderate resistance movements. Because they were socialist and considered a threat to the western dominance they were either ruthlessly bombed, like Laos and Vietnam, or the west supported dictators like Suharto, because they promised to kill all the communists for them. Even though the dictator is gone now, it will take many years for a moderate generation to grow again.

The exact same is happening in Palestine. The west supports Israel’s ethnic cleansing, meaning that the only resistance that is left is groups like Hamas.