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  • Joke’s on you, I use Java for some open-source projects I’m developing in my own free time, and it’s awesome. The type system is really helpful, the standard library is good, the IDEs are top notch, refactoring and debugging is easy, it’s stable and fast.

    Maven is great for dependency management and for publishing your own work. Gradle takes some time to learn and I didn’t like it at first, but once it ‘clicked’ I grew to appreciate its flexibility.









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    10 months ago

    Most of the post is an “argument from authority”: Trust me, I have a PhD and maintain my own X server, and I assure you that Wayland is a pile of shit!

    OP claims that “actually nothing will actually run” because the stable Wayland protocols lack so much important functionality. In reality, many people use Wayland every day, and multiple large distributions use it as the default display server. This doesn’t inspire confidence in OP’s knowledge.

    Admittedly, the first bug they linked is a real issue and it should be fixed, but it’s not a Wayland design flaw. It’s an (arguably important) feature that hasn’t been implemented by all compositors yet. With the second bug OP laments that Wayland compositors are implemented in C, an unsafe language. This is true about X.org too, so I don’t really see the point. Arguably Wayland improves on X11 here, because someone could develop a new Wayland compositor in Rust, while in X11 this is a core part of the display server.







  • I think you’re judging a bit too harsh. Elementary has it’s faults, but it is (was) an interesting OS with a lot of unique ideas:

    • The UI was gorgeous for its time, and in my opinion, their theme still looks better today than Adwaita and Breeze. They were among the first to offer global settings for light/dark modes, accent colors, and night light. It’s very consistent between applications, with a lot of attention to detail. Like they even had a custom icon theme for LibreOffice, just so it would fit in. In short, Elementary is much more than a simple “MacOS copycat”. This took a LOT of effort and it shows.
    • The “pay what you want” appstore was a novel idea, and I am sad that it didn’t work out.
    • The developer experience was quite good. They have excellent documentation that’s very accessible for newcomers, and for a while there were a number of interesting 3rd-party applications developed specifically for Elementary OS.
    • They cooperated with competing and upstream projects, mostly through freedesktop.org, and heavily invested in Vala. They maintained the GNOME email app when upstream lost interest, and contributed to Gnome Web.
    • Their included applications were really not that bad, and offered some unique features. For example, the file manager is probably the only one on Linux with Miller columns. And the terminal app is smart about CTRL+C, copying text when you want to copy text, and terminating the running process when that’s what you intended. I’m not exactly sure how it decides this, but it works perfectly.

    They ran out of funding last year, and their lead developer left. I think that explains the drop in quality that you encountered. Elementary used to be a coherent and polished OS, in a time when most Linux distributions were still a bit messy. I was a happy user for quite a while. Sadly, many of their innovations turned out to be a dead end. Their appstore mostly contains toy apps that nobody wants to pay for, Vala has lost traction, their “Code” IDE lacks LSP integration, and GNOME or KDE apps look out of place, and it’s impossible to upgrade to new releases. I wouldn’t recommend it anymore, but I hope that they will find their way back up again.