• aberrate_junior_beatnik
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    26 days ago

    “Tankies” tend to use the term liberal in the classical sense, which lumps conservatives in with progressives.

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      26 days ago

      That’s somewhat confusing since a classical liberal and a modern social liberal are quite distinct things. Plus, even two hundred years ago liberals were distinct from conservatives.

      I suppose to tankies, it’s liberals all the way down.

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          26 days ago

          And if you’re a Social Democrat like me, they’ll think I have a shrine to Milton Friedman.

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          Most self-aware freikorps supporter, if you’re a social Democrat you’re just announcing to everyone that you are going to be predisposed to trying to accommodate fascism abroad if it means you personally get healthcare and economic benefits.

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              26 days ago

              Could have fooled me, these are the same people cheering on the Democrats while they enabled this genocide in Gaza. They’re oh so progressive and worried about minorities, unless you’re from a designated enemy country In which case they’re goose stepping with the rest of the Americans.

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            25 days ago

            Thanks for the demonstration, of tankie ignorance of the difference between socdems and demsocs, of how everyone not a tankie is a liberal or a fascist; and, ironically, what ‘critical support’ is.

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              25 days ago

              Making a distinction without a difference. You’re also acting like there’s some vast landscape of democratic and/or socialists out there, just waiting to spring into power. That might be true, (I doubt it) but if your position on the most important question: “Do we continue to feed innocent bystanders into the war machine” is something you all have in common you’re gonna get painted with the same brush as the rest of the more national socialists.

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        26 days ago

        I mean to a Tankie, a “liberal” is just someone who disagrees with them. And some apparently consider it a derogatory slur, from the way they say it.

        It’s really quite humorous.

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        26 days ago

        It’s intentionally confusing. It’s a Russian psyop tactic that tankies have picked up.

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      26 days ago

      Regular-ass Socialists use liberal in the same way you’re describing, as do Anarchists.

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      25 days ago

      As far as I can tell the tankie definition of “liberal” is “anybody that doesn’t have Xi Jinoing’s cock so far down their throat that his balls are playing a bongo solo on their chin.”