LMAO, you’re trying to abdicate the IDF and Israel from guilt by treating the genocide like it’s a rouge group a soldiers disobeying orders and going on a murder spree, and I’m telling you it’s exactly the nation of Israel that is guilty of committing genocide. In fact, genocide is definitionally systematic, not individualistic.
Put another way:
The columbine shooter committed murder, and is a subset of Americans
Israel is committing genocide, and Israel is a superset of all IDF soldiers
In one case, the object of the crime (the guilty party) is an individual, and in the other case, the object of the crime is the group, and the individuals are subjects of the group. You wouldn’t say “Americans committed a mass shooting”, because mass shootings are something that is done by individuals, just like how genocides are something that is done by a group.
I think providing a nationstate bombs and missiles (as aid) is so distinct from a police department purchasing guns from a foreign company that the comparison can’t even be taken seriously
Not to mention at all the obsurdity of comparing targeted police brutality against POC and an apartheid state systematically killing and forcibly relocating 5.04 million Palestinians from their home.
Bombs and guns are both capable of killing. I don’t see why the US should be responsible for Palestinians killed with US made bombs if Austria is not responsible for Americans killed with Austrian made guns.
Do you think moral responsibility depends on the size of the explosion? That’s hard to take seriously. So if the US only provided guns to Israel, that would be OK?
I don’t see why the US should be responsible for Palestinians killed with US made bombs if Austria is not responsible for Americans killed with Austrian made guns.
Because the US is gifting those weapons for no other reason than for Israel to use them, be it against Hamas or Palestinians writ-large. Austria is simply the origin of a private company selling weapons to american pigs, but Austria could not be said to be “providing lethal aid” by any stretch of meaning.
There’s a legitimate discussion for the culpability of arms manufacturers in the use of their products for murder and terror under a capitalist system, but it is of a fundamentally different scale and nature of a Nationstate providing arms at no cost to another for the use in an internationally recognized genocide. A private company could be said to be acting purely in their financial self-interest by selling arms to law enforcement, but a nation spending their own money to give weapons to another for the use in a genocide has not even the slightest excuse of detached financial self-interest. They gain nothing from gifting those weapons except for what is gained through their active use, and for that the US bears an unbelievable burden of guilt.
LMAO, you’re trying to abdicate the IDF and Israel from guilt by treating the genocide like it’s a rouge group a soldiers disobeying orders and going on a murder spree, and I’m telling you it’s exactly the nation of Israel that is guilty of committing genocide. In fact, genocide is definitionally systematic, not individualistic.
Put another way:
In one case, the object of the crime (the guilty party) is an individual, and in the other case, the object of the crime is the group, and the individuals are subjects of the group. You wouldn’t say “Americans committed a mass shooting”, because mass shootings are something that is done by individuals, just like how genocides are something that is done by a group.
OK. I would say American police systematically kill American Black people. The police are armed by Glock and H&K.
So if America is responsible for the death of Palestinians, then Germany and Austria are responsible for the death of American Black people.
Lol, whoa, are Austria and Germany providing lethal aid to American pigs?!
I had no idea they were giving american police $12.5 Billion in bombs and missiles since the start of their active bombing campaign against POC.
Huge if true!
Yes, they provide guns to American police officers.
Lol don’t be dense
You think guns aren’t lethal? Or you think Austria doesn’t make Glocks?
I think providing a nationstate bombs and missiles (as aid) is so distinct from a police department purchasing guns from a foreign company that the comparison can’t even be taken seriously
Not to mention at all the obsurdity of comparing targeted police brutality against POC and an apartheid state systematically killing and forcibly relocating 5.04 million Palestinians from their home.
Bombs and guns are both capable of killing. I don’t see why the US should be responsible for Palestinians killed with US made bombs if Austria is not responsible for Americans killed with Austrian made guns.
Do you think moral responsibility depends on the size of the explosion? That’s hard to take seriously. So if the US only provided guns to Israel, that would be OK?
Because the US is gifting those weapons for no other reason than for Israel to use them, be it against Hamas or Palestinians writ-large. Austria is simply the origin of a private company selling weapons to american pigs, but Austria could not be said to be “providing lethal aid” by any stretch of meaning.
There’s a legitimate discussion for the culpability of arms manufacturers in the use of their products for murder and terror under a capitalist system, but it is of a fundamentally different scale and nature of a Nationstate providing arms at no cost to another for the use in an internationally recognized genocide. A private company could be said to be acting purely in their financial self-interest by selling arms to law enforcement, but a nation spending their own money to give weapons to another for the use in a genocide has not even the slightest excuse of detached financial self-interest. They gain nothing from gifting those weapons except for what is gained through their active use, and for that the US bears an unbelievable burden of guilt.