Federal court upholds Alabama's trans care ban citing lack of "deeply rooted" history of care - LGBTQ Nation
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A dissenting judge called the court out for only supporting medical care that was available in 1868 like "blistering, blood-letting, and leeches." Lagoa wrote the original opinion as well as the concurring opinion, and drew from  the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Medical Center, where Justice Samuel Alito wrote that the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution does not protect any right "not deeply rooted in the nation’s history and traditions."

Abortion is not “deeply-rooted” in American history, so it can be outlawed. Trans care is not “deeply rooted,” so it can be outlawed…

Hmmm. What other healthcare-related items aren’t “deeply-rooted” in American history? Birth control, for one. In vitro fertilization, for another. Radiation oncology? Liver transplants? Ccochlear implants?

It’s quite a long list of medical procedures to be disallowed, when “deeply-rooted” in American history is the standard, but I’m somehow certain that pills for erectile dysfunction will be continue to be allowed.

  • AnarchoSnowPlowEnglish
    571·
    2 months ago

    I want to be able to make a joke about this, but I can’t.

    I lived in Alabama for years of my adult life. I’m the parent of a trans child. I sought life-saving treatment for my child. They want me in prison.

    The people who push this are arguing logically, but they’re lying about their premises and the results always give them away.

    Viagra is gender affirming care. Viagra is not “deeply-rooted.” Viagra will never be banned in Alabama.

    Viagra is just a proxy in this example for anything that benefits those who see themselves at the top of the societal hierarchy. Men, white men in particular, men in general.

    The premise they’re starting from is “there is a natural hierarchy and disturbing it is unnatural and evil.” The “natural hierarchy” in their minds places white men at the top and subjugates everyone else. This is in part why many of them will tolerate gays, until they run out of other people to oppress anyway.

    So they say whatever they want “not deeply-rooted… Blah blah blah” it’s meaningless, trying to logic with them is a non starter because they’re never arguing in good faith. They’re lying about their premises because they are socially unacceptable.

    Fuck these pieces of shit.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      The people who push this are arguing logically

      They are not.

      Let’s not even pretend they deserve that caveat. They’re just ingroup supremacists who consider your child Other. They’ll shuffle cards to form an argument-shaped sentence reaching the predetermined conclusion. If their next conclusion requires opposite premises or opposite rationale, they won’t even notice, and they wouldn’t care if they did.

      • AnarchoSnowPlowEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        You are correct, the logicality that I refer to is that given an understanding of the actual underlying value system it is easy to predict the shape and desired outcome of any argument they make.

        If you understand someone’s motivation, it becomes much easier to predict their actions.

        The motivation is selfish bigotry. It can look random if you listen to the arguments, but if you observe the outcomes, the pattern is logical.