Abortion is not “deeply-rooted” in American history, so it can be outlawed. Trans care is not “deeply rooted,” so it can be outlawed…

Hmmm. What other healthcare-related items aren’t “deeply-rooted” in American history? Birth control, for one. In vitro fertilization, for another. Radiation oncology? Liver transplants? Ccochlear implants?

It’s quite a long list of medical procedures to be disallowed, when “deeply-rooted” in American history is the standard, but I’m somehow certain that pills for erectile dysfunction will be continue to be allowed.

  • AnarchoSnowPlow
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    I want to be able to make a joke about this, but I can’t.

    I lived in Alabama for years of my adult life. I’m the parent of a trans child. I sought life-saving treatment for my child. They want me in prison.

    The people who push this are arguing logically, but they’re lying about their premises and the results always give them away.

    Viagra is gender affirming care. Viagra is not “deeply-rooted.” Viagra will never be banned in Alabama.

    Viagra is just a proxy in this example for anything that benefits those who see themselves at the top of the societal hierarchy. Men, white men in particular, men in general.

    The premise they’re starting from is “there is a natural hierarchy and disturbing it is unnatural and evil.” The “natural hierarchy” in their minds places white men at the top and subjugates everyone else. This is in part why many of them will tolerate gays, until they run out of other people to oppress anyway.

    So they say whatever they want “not deeply-rooted… Blah blah blah” it’s meaningless, trying to logic with them is a non starter because they’re never arguing in good faith. They’re lying about their premises because they are socially unacceptable.

    Fuck these pieces of shit.

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      The people who push this are arguing logically

      They are not.

      Let’s not even pretend they deserve that caveat. They’re just ingroup supremacists who consider your child Other. They’ll shuffle cards to form an argument-shaped sentence reaching the predetermined conclusion. If their next conclusion requires opposite premises or opposite rationale, they won’t even notice, and they wouldn’t care if they did.

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        You are correct, the logicality that I refer to is that given an understanding of the actual underlying value system it is easy to predict the shape and desired outcome of any argument they make.

        If you understand someone’s motivation, it becomes much easier to predict their actions.

        The motivation is selfish bigotry. It can look random if you listen to the arguments, but if you observe the outcomes, the pattern is logical.

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    What they aren’t saying is what is deeply rooted in American history, which is what they’re aiming for by “making it great again” - eugenics, phrenology, “one-drop rule”, institutionalisation sterilisation and disenfranchisement of anyone deemed “undesirable” (anyone non white-Christian, queer people, disabled people, women who choose to stay single and or childless).

    They are so insecure in their own existence that they will hold on at all costs to the “science” they’ve made up to prove to themselves that they are superior to others, and which they can twist in to the paternalistic “responsibility” to “fix”, or simply remove, everyone who isn’t like them, to “improve” society.

    And since the science isn’t real, trying to apply logic to it is futile - of course they’ll still allow things that benefit them, they’ve taken great care to make sure they always have a way to exclude themselves from the rules (until they can’t anymore, because supremacists need an out group, and they will make up new constructs as and when they need to).