• DancingBear
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    Not sure what you are responding to. Your response is kind of vague. Voters are saying they voted on the economy and immigration among other issues. Trump was speaking to these issues while Kamala was not.

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      1 month ago

      Other voters in swing states had real issues with

      I’m not sure those voters exist. Lemmy thinks that they do but i don’t see any evidence that they’re real people.

      At any rate there’s little difference between not-voting and not-existing in the grand scheme so now we get to see what happens when an unashamed fascist wins and surrounds himself with yes men.

      Unless those principled non-voters are ready to arm themselves and actually agitate, they might as well not exist and we can proceed accordingly.

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        I still don’t understand your point.

        All you’re doing is continuing to shame voters who didn’t vote for your candidate, even after these voters told your candidate what their priorities were.

        The only substantial thing Kamala ran on was that she wasn’t Trump. Outside of not being Trump she is a shell of a human being who has no real values and will always change her views based on the campaign contributions she receives. Voters saw through her fake personality.

        Continuing to try and shame voters for not supporting your candidate isn’t going to accomplish anything, much in the same way Obama and Hillary trying to shame voters accomplished little as well.

        The DNC can’t even beat a buffoon like Trump because they are so bought and paid for by corporate and dark money PACs.

        Maybe try stop trying to blame voters and focus your energies in that direction.

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          I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said except.

          Continuing to try and shame voters for not supporting your candidate isn’t going to accomplish anything

          Who was MY candidate? I had to vote for the same milquetoast dem every other functional adult did. I weighed the options and made a decision. If some hypothetical non-voters think they have a better solution let’s see it, they should be ashamed. Sitting in basements screeching online doesn’t accomplish anything so let’s fucking go.

          I’m just waiting for the revolution to start, that’s what we all want right?

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            Shaming voters won’t accomplish anything.

            Fundamentally you are shaming voters for bad decisions that your candidate made.

            The culpability for losing falls completely on Harris and the DNC, not on anyone else.

            Shaming people for not voting for your candidate will push people away rather than recruit more voters to your side.

            If you’d rather scream and shout from your soap box shaming voters who are traditionally on your side, feel free. Just know that you will be doing more actual harm for your cause than even any of the non voters did.

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              I’m shaming dumbfuck voters, abstainers, and the DNC.

              Start the revolution or roll over and take it unlubed, we’re all waiting.

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                Well, shaming voters that you want to be on your side is a losing strategy.

                Kamala can gtfo of here, if she never appears on the political stage again it will be too soon.

                The leadership of the DNC does not speak for the voters.

                Shaming voters is a losing strategy.

                Demanding accountability from the DNC is 100% what’s needed.

                I don’t have a clue what you are referring to with these vague references of revolution, but again, shaming voters is and always will be a losing strategy.

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                  shaming voters is and always will be a losing strategy.

                  That’s fine, I’m not a strategist or PR freak. I’m some random person on the internet.

                  I don’t have a clue what you are referring to with these vague references of revolution,

                  I’m not 100% sure either but I bet we’re gonna find out over the next decade or so.

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                    Even among your friends and family, shaming is not usually a good strategy.

                    I think even if your puppy pees or poops on the rug shaming is a losing strategy.