Hello comrades, it’s time for our FINAL discussion thread for The Will to Change, covering Chapters 10 (Reclaiming Male Integrity), 11 (Loving Men) and the book as a whole. Thanks to everyone who’s participated over the last couple months, I’m looking forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts again. And if you haven’t started the book yet but would like to, this thread will stay pinned for a while so you can share your thoughts as you read!
As we reflect on the book as a whole, there are a few questions I’m curious to hear everyone’s answers for:
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What was your biggest takeaway from reading The Will to Change?
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How has the book’s material and hooks’ insights affected your everyday life?
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How can we apply hooks’ lessons on healthy, non-patriarchal masculinity to improve the site culture of Hexbear?
If you haven’t read the book yet but would like to, its available free on the Internet Archive in text form, as well as an audiobook on Youtube with content warnings at the start of each chapter, courtesy of the Anarchist Audio Library, and as an audiobook on our very own TankieTube! (note: the YT version is missing the Preface but the Tankietube version has it)
After this I would like to host another book club, probably here on /c/menby but it depends on what exactly we read. Please share any suggestions you have for books below!
So I won’t be able to due the whole thing justice since its a whole series of essays but I will try to summarize it as best as possible. adrienne marree brown (the author of Pleasure Activitsm and who doesn’t capitalize her name) starts with Uses of the Erotic: The Erotic as Power which was her original inspiration which should help give an overview of the views of erotic as power which is a great starting point.
Her definition of pleasure isn’t the same as a hedonism where avoiding all pain and taking all pleasure is the main goal. She talks more about how pleasure is something that someone needs to cultivate within their own life that is long lasting and meaningful. This is similar to eating only candy doesn’t give a lasting satisfaction but rather short term happiness with longer term pain. True pleasure isn’t a short term burst of happiness with a large drop or mindless low level entertainment but rather long lasting and sustainable.
One of the key ideas is that pleasure isn’t something external that you can purchase, or be given to you but something you grow yourself daily. So you will need to find things that bring you joy based on your own internal desires and needs. A lot of her pleasure comes from human interactions, community and internal choices. There is a lot of talk about how art, fashion, dance, song, community, sex, conversation and meditation bring more long term pleasure than mindless entertainment. Also there is a large element about how finding what one truly wants is different from what society says you may want.
adrienne marree brown also has a large section about how as a queer black woman being happy and joyful in a world that says all those things are wrong is a revolutionary act. Since I am neither of those things this wasn’t as important in my day to day life but beautiful to read and think about.
Her blog has some essays that were in her book I think in case you want to take a look.
I don’t know; to address the topic of the thread in-general, rather than just the specific books you’ve offered. I have been independently reading Ms. hooks’ book off & on independently of the reading group; but I for one haven’t really been commenting on it, because aside from some insight into women’s perceptions & experiences of men, as well as acknowledgements of men’s own material & internal struggles under Capitalist Patriarchy, I just don’t get a lot out of the book personally. There’s not very much here that feels actionable to & applicable within my own life that I’m not already doing to the best of my ability; and the given that the book itself already feels more like Self-Help rather than solid political theory (although it contains kernels of that for certain), it just doesn’t seem like it’s for me.
A lot of this book and other similar books have less direct day to day changes but are mostly focused on attitude and mental changes. The changes in attitude and mental pathways seem less actionable and applicable but can have great changes in your day to day life. This is basically what Cognitive Behavior Therapy does which is highly effective.
Right, but I wouldn’t call that politics. Like I said, it’s more like Self-Help, or like you said therapy.
The difference is explained in Marx’s “The German Ideology”, and his contrasting of “Philosophic” & “Real” liberation.
Spoiler: Wall of Theory
The rub here, is that while Self-Help & Therapy can be good at providing strategies (both practical, and mental) at aligning ones “essence”, with ones “existence” by shifting the former towards the latter; they are by definition not Revolutionary. Because the prosecution of a Revolution is precisely the opposite state of affairs, it is altering “existence” to suit one’s “essence”.