Wow. This reminds me of something I heard way back in the 80’s, where word was if you managed get away long enough to park and get out of your car, they couldn’t prove that it was you driving and you’d get away with it.
I think there’s a grain of truth in there; like, if they didn’t actually see your face, and somehow you escape and get back to your house without them seeing you actually exit the vehicle… I don’t know. It was all sort of theoretical back then, and being predicated on winning a car chase pursuit I’d forgotten about it until just now. I wonder if that’s some ancestor rumor to the current web of SovCit beliefs.
Depends on the infraction, but isn’t the owner of the car liable in cases where the driver can’t be determined conclusively?
Like, for example, with speed cameras… If your face was obscured in the picture, you still get a ticket in the mail if you’re the registered owner of the car.
Just like parking tickets are ultimately the responsibility of the owner, since there’s usually no one driving when the ticket is issued.
It matters how the law is worded (at least in the US). Parking tickets are always worded that the owner of the vehicle is responsible. Otherwise anyone could claim they weren’t the one that parked there. Generally speeding and actual moving infractions go to the driver not the owner.
I think it depends on where you are, and probably which decade. I lived in Munich a long while ago, and they had face cameras for catching red-light runners. I knew a few people, personally, who got off because the camera didn’t get a good picture of their faces. I don’t know a lot of places where the vehicle owner is held responsible; like your car gets stolen and taken for a joy ride, someone gets run over, and you’re held responsible for manslaughter just because you hold the title?
But I don’t know. Laws change, and are different in every state in any case.
Oh, the converse of the Munich story is one friend who got her ticket in the mail and it’s a perfect picture of her, driving, beer can in-hand, leaning forward and looking directly up into the camera. They had this little red light that would blink a couple of times before it took the picture, and even knowing what it is, the instinct to look up at the blinking light was pretty effective at getting good photos.
Wow. This reminds me of something I heard way back in the 80’s, where word was if you managed get away long enough to park and get out of your car, they couldn’t prove that it was you driving and you’d get away with it.
I think there’s a grain of truth in there; like, if they didn’t actually see your face, and somehow you escape and get back to your house without them seeing you actually exit the vehicle… I don’t know. It was all sort of theoretical back then, and being predicated on winning a car chase pursuit I’d forgotten about it until just now. I wonder if that’s some ancestor rumor to the current web of SovCit beliefs.
Depends on the infraction, but isn’t the owner of the car liable in cases where the driver can’t be determined conclusively?
Like, for example, with speed cameras… If your face was obscured in the picture, you still get a ticket in the mail if you’re the registered owner of the car.
Just like parking tickets are ultimately the responsibility of the owner, since there’s usually no one driving when the ticket is issued.
It matters how the law is worded (at least in the US). Parking tickets are always worded that the owner of the vehicle is responsible. Otherwise anyone could claim they weren’t the one that parked there. Generally speeding and actual moving infractions go to the driver not the owner.
I think it depends on where you are, and probably which decade. I lived in Munich a long while ago, and they had face cameras for catching red-light runners. I knew a few people, personally, who got off because the camera didn’t get a good picture of their faces. I don’t know a lot of places where the vehicle owner is held responsible; like your car gets stolen and taken for a joy ride, someone gets run over, and you’re held responsible for manslaughter just because you hold the title?
But I don’t know. Laws change, and are different in every state in any case.
Oh, the converse of the Munich story is one friend who got her ticket in the mail and it’s a perfect picture of her, driving, beer can in-hand, leaning forward and looking directly up into the camera. They had this little red light that would blink a couple of times before it took the picture, and even knowing what it is, the instinct to look up at the blinking light was pretty effective at getting good photos.