• Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org
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        no weapons for Ukraine

        no Ukraine in NATO

        no NATO in general

        demilitarisation of Europe

        I think Putin wants all if these too

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        You want a citation for Putin not wanting weapons shipped to Ukraine?

        For disarming Europe in general?

        For them bringing in Russia into a European defense pact (fucking uberlol)

        For cutting Turkey out of their defense alliances?

        Okay bud, here you go:

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War

        🤡

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          Yeah their Außenpolitik sucks, but they aren’t paid or controlled Putin freaks, that’s the AfD and the BSW.

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            they might not be controlled by Putin, but they might as well be. this only means that they’re having positions favorable to Putin voluntarily and out of conviction.

            whatever their motive might be, in the end it amounts to the same thing that BSW and AfD want as well.

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            “They just do everything in terms of foreign policy that Putin wants them to do, but that doesn’t mean they do what the foreign dictator Putin wants?”

            Do you hear yourself?

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              No, that’s not what I said. I don’t agree with their foreign policy, that being not wanting to give weapons to Ukraine or other countries, but their social policy is very progressive. Labeling them the effectively the same as BSW and AfD is just wrong.

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      No. Leftists are the most consistent against Putin. All parties have their co-opting agents, but the ratio and overall long term goals is what matters

      This shouldn’t be needed to be repeated, we’re in a leftist social platform after all