I don’t know. I just had a discussion where someone told me it’d unrealistic to give up YouTube for the alternatives and yadda yadda yadda. It bears reminding that not everyone is as privacy-minded and make up nowhere near a majority. Not caring what happens because you aren’t using chromium is dangerous. It’s still about you and it’s still going to affect you.
It’s not that I don’t care. I intend to do whatever I can to help prevent it. But at the end of the day, if people keep supporting platforms like YouTube, then I see the enshittification of the internet as inevitable. We’re literally welcoming it by doing so.
Been there, done that. Spoiler alert, it ends with even more people switching to chromium, Mozilla crying that it’s deeply concerned with and extremely opposing WEI and will work on figuring out a better solution, because WEI is not what Open Web should be, but is being forced to implement it, because people are switching to other browsers because their shit ain’t working.
With most competing browsers and the content industry embracing the W3C EMEWEI specification, Mozilla has little choice but to implement EMEWEI as well so our users can continue to access all content they want to enjoy.
You really don’t realize how stupid that take is? If Google manages to establish this all major browsers will have follow and a single complain less won’t change that…
Good point, there are few people as unlikable than redditors, who are so fragile that they need to disparage other people with words like “stupid,” or tell other people they’re “too sensitive.”
On that note, in my experience, 100% of those who call others too sensitive are colosally bad, unempathetic humans.
Your bank will implement WEI API. Facebook will too, same as Gmail or Youtube. Any browser that does not support or has removed the WEI API will not be able to display or use any of those websites. It’s the same with Netflix or Spotify - if you try to use it in a more privacy-centered browser, it simply does not work - because it those browsers do not support EME API (which is a DRM that was implemented few years ago, but for media). Firefox was against it, by the way. Firefox also quickly backed down and implemented it anyway once it rolled out, because “We ArE FoRcEd tO Do It”, due to their already dwindling marketshare and people complaining and switching to other browsers because their shit ain’t working on Firefox.
Everyone keeps saying “I will never use a browser that does support WEI!”, but somehow it feels like they don’t really realize that their internet will simply stop working for most of the content they consume, since there’s no reason for Google or Facebook to not use this opportunity to forcefeed more ads to people.
That’s fine I can replace or not use all those services and I would LOVE to see my bank try it I would love to see them try it in the EU too. These is blatant monopolistic moves and I will not change my browser or OS for WEI.
Correction: The adblockalypse is coming for people still using chromium
It’s serverside with browser support. A webserver implements it on their site, so it could refuse to load without WEI regardless of chromium or not.
…therefore, the more people who switch to non-chromium browsers, the better.
You’re preaching to the choir.
I don’t know. I just had a discussion where someone told me it’d unrealistic to give up YouTube for the alternatives and yadda yadda yadda. It bears reminding that not everyone is as privacy-minded and make up nowhere near a majority. Not caring what happens because you aren’t using chromium is dangerous. It’s still about you and it’s still going to affect you.
It’s not that I don’t care. I intend to do whatever I can to help prevent it. But at the end of the day, if people keep supporting platforms like YouTube, then I see the enshittification of the internet as inevitable. We’re literally welcoming it by doing so.
Been there, done that. Spoiler alert, it ends with even more people switching to chromium, Mozilla crying that it’s deeply concerned with and extremely opposing WEI and will work on figuring out a better solution, because WEI is not what Open Web should be, but is being forced to implement it, because people are switching to other browsers because their shit ain’t working.
I wager the post on Mozilla’s blog is going to read something like this blog-post about EME (the closed-source video DRM) from few years back. I mean, you can just replace EME with WEI and be done with it. Because this has already happened once before, and we know how exactly it will end.
Even if you’re right, I’m not going to throw my hands up and do nothing.
Within 6 months of implementation someone will find a way around it, or a FOSS alternative to spoof the WEI signing on servers.
I mean, it’s basically going to be as strong as TLS. Unless the digital signers cert gets leaked, I don’t see how.
Yea, because the other browsers certainly won’t follow if users complain because Youtube and co. dont work anymore…
I wouldn’t complain. Good riddance.
You really don’t realize how stupid that take is? If Google manages to establish this all major browsers will have follow and a single complain less won’t change that…
I simply will not use the internet until another browser is available? Use that little head.
Reported for being disproportionately hostile. There is no reason to attack someone over something as silly as web browsers.
That wasn’t a “attack”… 🤦
It was, actually. I guess you just attack people without even realizing it. Let me guess: You’re a redditor?
There is a difference between calling your take stupid and you stupid, I am not a Redditor but I have the slight feeling you might be one tbh…
LOL maybe you’re just a little sensitive. Also YOU called HIM a redditor. That’s an attack in my book.
Good point, there are few people as unlikable than redditors, who are so fragile that they need to disparage other people with words like “stupid,” or tell other people they’re “too sensitive.”
On that note, in my experience, 100% of those who call others too sensitive are colosally bad, unempathetic humans.
Perhaps ungoogled chromium will remove the WEI API?
Or forks like Brave and such.
That’s not how it works.
Your bank will implement WEI API. Facebook will too, same as Gmail or Youtube. Any browser that does not support or has removed the WEI API will not be able to display or use any of those websites. It’s the same with Netflix or Spotify - if you try to use it in a more privacy-centered browser, it simply does not work - because it those browsers do not support EME API (which is a DRM that was implemented few years ago, but for media). Firefox was against it, by the way. Firefox also quickly backed down and implemented it anyway once it rolled out, because “We ArE FoRcEd tO Do It”, due to their already dwindling marketshare and people complaining and switching to other browsers because their shit ain’t working on Firefox.
Everyone keeps saying “I will never use a browser that does support WEI!”, but somehow it feels like they don’t really realize that their internet will simply stop working for most of the content they consume, since there’s no reason for Google or Facebook to not use this opportunity to forcefeed more ads to people.
well fuck
Actually, Google is saying “you fuck”. :p
That’s fine I can replace or not use all those services and I would LOVE to see my bank try it I would love to see them try it in the EU too. These is blatant monopolistic moves and I will not change my browser or OS for WEI.